Dry and dropper question

Hello gentlemen.

I have been absent from this group for a while because of real-life
issues (too much work). Fortunately the summer holiday is approaching
- hence a fly-fishing related question came to my mind.

Is there a way to make a dry and dropper rig so that adjusting the
depth of the dropper could be done easily? I do not want to use an
adjustable indicator or any other weird gadget, just two flies and
tippet / leader material.

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On 2008-05-01, Jarmo Hurri wrote:

Is there a way to make a dry and dropper rig so that adjusting the
depth of the dropper could be done easily? I do not want to use an
adjustable indicator or any other weird gadget, just two flies and
tippet / leader material.

I haven't tried it yet, being so new to FF, but I was thinking multiple
length droppers with a uni knot to the dry hook bend. It would be a pretty
quick way to change droppers. Maybe loop-to-loop for dropper loops. Just
spitballin'.

nb

On May 1, 1:20 pm, Jarmo Hurri wrote:
Hello gentlemen.

I have been absent from this group for a while because of real-life
issues (too much work). Fortunately the summer holiday is approaching
- hence a fly-fishing related question came to my mind.

Is there a way to make a dry and dropper rig so that adjusting the
depth of the dropper could be done easily? I do not want to use an
adjustable indicator or any other weird gadget, just two flies and
tippet / leader material.

--
Jarmo Hurri

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Tie your dropper on, and mount your dry fly using a loop. Just form a
loop in the line, thread the loop through the eye of the hook, and
over the fly. Pull slowly tight.

If you want to adjust the depth, just loosen the loop and slide the
dry fly along the leader.

This wont work with very small dries, but those would be pointless on
a dry and dropper rig anyway.

TL
MC

Of course, the drop fly is tied to the end of your leader.

TL
MC

It will also work using a leader ring and the same loop, if you want a
"stand-off" dry fly, and this will also allow you to use even knotted
leaders if they pass through the ring. Otherwise the adjustment is of
course limited to the distance between knots.

TL
MC

Of course you can remove or change the dry fly at any time, simply by
passing it back through the loop.

TL
MC

Is a bit difficult to explain clearly, so here´s a sketch;

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4143/slidedryzd1.jpg

TL
MC

Mike wrote:
Of course, the drop fly is tied to the end of your leader.

TL
MC

ah...that's the part i didn't get. sounds workable, except won't the dry
fly slip during parts of the casting motion?

....i also like the idea of a short permanently attached leader to the
bend of the dry fly hook with a loop at the end for loop to loop
attachment of varying lengths of pre-rigged dropper leaders with flies.
i saw something - i think in an orvis circular - about a new (to me)
nymphing leader system that has a series of loops down its length
imparting a more natural action to the nymph as it moves with the current.

jeff

On May 1, 11:47 pm, jeff miller wrote:
Mike wrote:
Of course, the drop fly is tied to the end of your leader.

TL
MC

ah...that's the part i didn't get. sounds workable, except won't the dry
fly slip during parts of the casting motion?

...i also like the idea of a short permanently attached leader to the
bend of the dry fly hook with a loop at the end for loop to loop
attachment of varying lengths of pre-rigged dropper leaders with flies.
i saw something - i think in an orvis circular - about a new (to me)
nymphing leader system that has a series of loops down its length
imparting a more natural action to the nymph as it moves with the current.

jeff

If the fly tends to slip. then make one twist in the loop before
threading the fly through it. In practice it does not actually slip
much. I have not used it very much really, I only recently thought of
it, ( end of last year) because I got fed up of having to change
tippet lengths for fishing varying depth grayling runs. I have never
seen it before either, so it might be a new idea.

First time I have published it anywhere either.

A couple of times, when larger fish took the dry, the fly slipped down
a bit. But it doesn´t slip much during casting. With large dries, I
use one twist in the loop before threading the fly through the loop.

With the leader ring, I twist the loop once anyway. This seems to lock
the ring in position very well.

I have tried various loop systems, but for one reason or another didn
´t like them much. They can cause tangles, interfere with leader
turnover, and are simply not very elegant.

I don´t like tippet off the bend off the dry, ( the "New Zealand
rig"), because it bumps fish, when they hit the nylon, and the hook
never enters their mouths.

After a large fish on the dry, you may have a slight kink in the
line, but it doesn´t seem to cause any problems.

TL
MC

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Mike wrote:


Tie your dropper on, and mount your dry fly using a loop. Just form a
loop in the line, thread the loop through the eye of the hook, and
over the fly. Pull slowly tight.

If you want to adjust the depth, just loosen the loop and slide the
dry fly along the leader.

This wont work with very small dries, but those would be pointless on
a dry and dropper rig anyway.


Wow! That is such an elegant solution. And I've never heard of it
anywhere before.

Congratulations and tight lines

Lazarus