Jersey Jerks Again

Check this out from the NEFF site:

All text and material © NEFF, LLC. 2008

That's right, not only is the scumbag mother****er using
our posts to cheat his advertisers, the crazy sleazeball
claims to own the copyright to our posts !

I have come across some truly despicable creeps in my 51
years but this Dennis Cabarle asshole takes the cake.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Check this out from the NEFF site:

All text and material © NEFF, LLC. 2008

That's right, not only is the scumbag mother****er using
our posts to cheat his advertisers, the crazy sleazeball
claims to own the copyright to our posts !

I have come across some truly despicable creeps in my 51
years but this Dennis Cabarle asshole takes the cake.

--
Ken Fortenberry

hmmmm. So Dickhead Denny claims rights to material that I wrote, yet never
gave him implicit right to??
Very, very interesting........
Tom

"Tom Littleton" wrote in
news:qholk.137$EL2.98@trnddc01:


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Check this out from the NEFF site:

All text and material © NEFF, LLC. 2008

That's right, not only is the scumbag mother****er using
our posts to cheat his advertisers, the crazy sleazeball
claims to own the copyright to our posts !

I have come across some truly despicable creeps in my 51
years but this Dennis Cabarle asshole takes the cake.

--
Ken Fortenberry

hmmmm. So Dickhead Denny claims rights to material that I wrote, yet
never gave him implicit right to??
Very, very interesting........
Tom



Seems like quite a few cease and desists might be in order.


--
Scott
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On Aug 4, 7:58 am, Scott Seidman wrote:
"Tom Littleton" wrote innews:qholk.137$EL2.98@trnddc01:





"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
.. .
Check this out from the NEFF site:

All text and material © NEFF, LLC. 2008

That's right, not only is the scumbag mother****er using
our posts to cheat his advertisers, the crazy sleazeball
claims to own the copyright to our posts !

I have come across some truly despicable creeps in my 51
years but this Dennis Cabarle asshole takes the cake.

--
Ken Fortenberry

hmmmm. So Dickhead Denny claims rights to material that I wrote, yet
never gave him implicit right to??
Very, very interesting........
Tom

Seems like quite a few cease and desists might be in order.

--
Scott
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He also claims in his user protocols that, by posting to NEFF, you
give up your first Amendment rights to free speech, whereas he
explicitly claims his own right to post whatever he wants, including
your personal info that you specifically format to keep hidden: if you
**** him off, he'll post that and/or anything you have ever written to
him. He also has absolutely no mechanism to unsubscribe to his
site...if you register, he claims the rights to everything you post
and all your info.

Sort of a power trip, if you ask me.

But I will grant him that eventually he realized that spamming roff
was not worth the effort. I don't know if he ever realized that he
****ed up technologically or ethically...just that 'it didn't work out
the way he planned.' Its like the universe has him at its
center...hmmm, that reminds me of an old New Yorker magazine cover.

--riverman

riverman wrote in news:e7394205-ad23-455f-aebb-
:


But I will grant him that eventually he realized that spamming roff
was not worth the effort.

If he's still taking ROFF posts, he's still inflating his post count.


--
Scott
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On Aug 4, 7:16 am, riverman wrote:

He also claims in his user protocols that, by posting to NEFF, you
give up your first Amendment rights to free speech,

The lawyers can correct me, but I'm pretty sure that he can put
whatever conditions he wants on a voluntarily subscribed free service.
People tend to invoke the 1st Amen. in too many places.

site...if you register, he claims the rights to everything you post
and all your info.

Sort of a power trip, if you ask me.

This is pretty standard practice at most "free service" sites, from
Google on down. I put up with it to post to ROFF through Google, but
I'd never have a Gmail account or use Google apps. Pretty much, their
agreement says that even though they won't use your info/data for some
current list of actions (to make you think your safe), they reserve
the right to do anything they want with it in the future. In the past
I've even refused to send some personal email to a friend on their
Gmail account, because Google claims ownership of incoming mail, too.

I'm not at all defending it or saying I like it, I'm just saying it
is. Use these services at your own risk, and make sure you understand
what you are agreeing to.

Jon.