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Old November 3rd, 2008, 04:45 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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vote no on barrack hussein obama.....even if he fig's out
where is was born, of what country he belongs to......


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Old November 3rd, 2008, 06:02 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Nov 4, 12:45*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
vote no on barrack hussein obama.....even if he fig's out
where is was born, of what country he belongs to......


Fear and loathing....

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Old November 3rd, 2008, 08:21 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Granted, it was a 62-28 loss, but we still like Pelini here in
Nebraska.
Frank Reid

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Old November 3rd, 2008, 08:24 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Nov 3, 10:45*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
vote no on barrack hussein obama.....even if he fig's out
where is was born, of what country he belongs to......


Is McCain a citizen? Hmm, Obama was at least born in the US. McCain
was not and the ruling on that has never passed Supreme Court
scrutiny. However, being born in the US with at least one US citizen
as a parent has. So, do we vote for the American or the Panamanian?
Frank Reid
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 09:04 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:24:34 -0800 (PST), Frank Reid © 2008
wrote:

On Nov 3, 10:45*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
vote no on barrack hussein obama.....even if he fig's out
where is was born, of what country he belongs to......


Is McCain a citizen? Hmm, Obama was at least born in the US. McCain
was not and the ruling on that has never passed Supreme Court
scrutiny. However, being born in the US with at least one US citizen
as a parent has. So, do we vote for the American or the Panamanian?
Frank Reid


My gawd, Frank. Not you. McCain was born in the Canal Zone, a
legitimate part of Panama that belong to the U.S. Besides, he was
born to a member of the U.S. Military, so regardless *where* he was
born, he is a native born citizen of the U.S.

On last count, I don't believe Kenya is part of the U.S., nor is
Barrack senior a U.S. Citizen that served in the military.

Dave


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Old November 3rd, 2008, 09:16 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Frank Reid © 2008 wrote:
Is McCain a citizen? Hmm, Obama was at least born in the US. McCain
was not and the ruling on that has never passed Supreme Court
scrutiny. However, being born in the US with at least one US citizen
as a parent has. So, do we vote for the American or the Panamanian?


My gawd, Frank. Not you. McCain was born in the Canal Zone, a
legitimate part of Panama that belong to the U.S. Besides, he was
born to a member of the U.S. Military, so regardless *where* he was
born, he is a native born citizen of the U.S.

On last count, I don't believe Kenya is part of the U.S., nor is
Barrack senior a U.S. Citizen that served in the military.


I was born in Landstuhl, Germany to U.S. citizen parents,
my dad was an Air Force Sergeant at the time. I have a
German birth certificate issued at my birth in 1956 and
Naturalization papers from the U.S. State Department issued
in 1958. For my entire life, until this McCain thing came
up, I have believed myself ineligible for the presidency
because I was a Naturalized citizen. My father always
believed the same thing.

Like Frank said, it's never been put to the test and as
usual what you lack in knowledge you make up for with
certitude.

--
Ken Fortenberry
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 09:34 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:16:16 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Like Frank said, it's never been put to the test and as
usual what you lack in knowledge you make up for with
certitude.


Horse caca. He was born in a U.S. possession. If he had been born on
Guam, Alaska or Hawaii before they became states, he would be eligible
for POTUS. Kenya is NOT part of the U.S. It has been reported that
Obama's own fraternal grandmother said he was born in Kenya. And,
yes, even you are eligible for POTUS. kaaaaack


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Old November 3rd, 2008, 09:51 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry[_2_]
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Like Frank said, it's never been put to the test and as
usual what you lack in knowledge you make up for with
certitude.


... It has been reported that
Obama's own fraternal grandmother said he was born in Kenya. ...


I tried to warn you about wandering around outside without
your tin foil hat.

--
Ken Fortenberry
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 10:00 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Nov 3, 3:34*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:16:16 -0600, Ken Fortenberry

wrote:
Like Frank said, it's never been put to the test and as
usual what you lack in knowledge you make up for with
certitude.


Horse caca. *He was born in a U.S. possession. *If he had been born on
Guam, Alaska or Hawaii before they became states, he would be eligible
for POTUS. *Kenya is NOT part of the U.S. *It has been reported that
Obama's own fraternal grandmother said he was born in Kenya. *And,
yes, even you are eligible for POTUS. *kaaaaack


Obama was born in Hawaii after it became a state. "It has been
reported..." is not good enough. Hell, if we believe the "it has been
reported" stuff, then space aliens are frequent overnight guests at
the White house. For Obama, there is a Hawiian birth certificate.
Works for me until proven in a court otherwise. United States v. Wong
Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898),
On the other the other hand, there is still, "tradition"
notwithstanding, question on the by birth/naturalization question of
those born in protectorates, possessions and of US parents. In
regards to the Panama Canal Zone, on July 28, 1904, Controller of the
Treasury Robert Tracewell stated, "While the general spirit and
purpose of the Constitution is applicable to the zone, that domain is
not a part of the United States within the full meaning of the
Constitution and laws of the country." So this question has been
floundering around for a very long time. It wasn't until 1953 that
those born in the Canal Zone were granted citizenship automatically.
Mr. McCain was born in '36. The Canal Zone at the time was under "US
control." Not a possession or protectorate. I'm not saying that John
McCain is not US citizen, I'm just saying that there is more leqal
grey area possible in John McCain's citizenship than in Barack
Obama's.
Frank Reid
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Old November 4th, 2008, 12:01 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
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I was born in Landstuhl, Germany to U.S. citizen parents,
my dad was an Air Force Sergeant at the time. I have a
German birth certificate issued at my birth in 1956 and
Naturalization papers from the U.S. State Department issued
in 1958.


Oh, gawd! You're not running for office, are you?! Talk about goin' ta hell
in a handbasket.
--
TL,
Tim
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