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Old March 15th, 2009, 02:15 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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We're all inner-city blacks now
Star Parker: New leaders destroying nation like they did
African-American community


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted: March 07, 2009
1:00 am Eastern



By Star Parker


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Blacks are not given enough credit for being trendsetters in America.



Blacks started playing the blues, jazz, and R&B, then the rest of
America started playing them.



Blacks discovered the politics of victimhood, then the rest of America
started catching on.



Black women got into having babies without marriage. Then white women
started getting into it (the incidence of white out-of-wedlock births
today – almost 30 percent – is higher than the black rate in the
1960s).



Blacks bought into dependency and the welfare state. Now the rest of
America has bought in.



Blacks for years elected politicians championing public policy that
destroyed their own communities. Now the rest of America has installed
a new political leadership with the perfect formula – run roughshod
over private ownership, disdain traditional values, substitute
political power for personal responsibility – for destroying our
country.



We can expect the rest of America to reap the same benefits that
blacks have enjoyed from this lunacy. In the late 1960s, when
President Johnson announced his war on poverty and seeded welfare
state culture in our inner cities, the majority of black families had
married parents living at home. By 1995, only one in three black homes
had married parents.

As the black family collapsed, predictable social pathologies
escalated. Crime, drugs, promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases,
fatherless children, abortion and disdain for education.

Not surprisingly, the black poverty rate, almost a quarter of the
black population, has remained frozen at twice the national average
since the late 1960s.

While the press was having a field day criticizing Gov. Bobby Jindal's
television remarks following President Obama's address to Congress,
too little attention was paid to his personal story. After all, the
father of the 37-year-old Louisiana governor was a poor immigrant from
India.

Not every child of poor immigrants becomes a governor before their
40th birthday, but there is a reason more people from all over the
world want to immigrate to the United States than we're willing to let
in. They come here for opportunity. Children of poor immigrants
getting educated and moving in one generation into the middle class is
the story of America.

Why, then, when poor immigrant families readily move in one generation
into the middle class, does one-fourth of black America remain poor,
generation after generation?

Racism? I don't think so. Black poverty is overwhelmingly a phenomenon
of single-mother homes. The incidence of poverty in black homes with
married parents is around 10 percent, well below the national average.

It's what happens when lives get politicized and people are instructed
to be helpless. In the case of blacks, it's being taught that America
is inherently racist and that their only hope is political protection
from white exploitation.

Our politicians tell us now that we need to turn the whole country
over to them because capitalism has supposedly failed and we need
protection from exploitation by the wealthy.

Has anyone noticed that the only markets that have failed in America
are the ones distorted with major government controls, regulations,
subsidies, or taxpayer guarantees?

University of Michigan economist Mark Perry recently listed on his
blog 16 typical household items – furniture, kitchen appliances,
electronics – showing how many hours of work, at the average wage, it
would take to purchase these items today, compared to 1950. The whole
basket of goods takes one-fifth the amount of hours of work today to
purchase compared to 59 years ago. This is markets and innovation at
work.

Anyone who is curious where the current left wing takeover of our
economy will lead, with government soon taking 40 cents out of every
dollar we produce, should tour through any of America's inner cities.

If we have any luck, some of the better instincts of blacks today will
also set trends. Blacks attend church more than any other group in the
country. And most blacks reject the debasement of the definition of
marriage.

Star Parker is is an author and president of CURE, Coalition on Urban
Renewal and Education. Her books include "White Ghetto: How Middle
Class America Reflects Inner City Decay

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Old March 15th, 2009, 02:21 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Tom Littleton
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google of Star Parker finds:

first two on the list of glowing recommendations: from
Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. Priceless. Yet another ideologue with an ax
to grind.
Tom





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Old March 15th, 2009, 02:46 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Dave LaCourse
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:21:03 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:

google of Star Parker finds:

first two on the list of glowing recommendations: from
Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. Priceless. Yet another ideologue with an ax
to grind.
Tom



LOL. You condemn her outright because she is a conservative. Yet,
she has walked the walk that most, if not all, liberals *have not*
walked. Born into poverty, a welfare mother (with more than a couple
of abortions), she picked herself up, got an education and is now
condemning what is wrong with the "entitlement" that many blacks and
hispanics take for granted. Johnson's War on Poverty has been a
dismal failure and if Obama is to change anything, he should leave
alone the Welfare Reform Bill that Clinton passed in the mid 90's.
Instead he wants to return to the failed policies of the 60's and
70's. It doesn't work.

YOUR idealogy, Tom, has made you blind. Think about it. Read what
she has to say.


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Old March 15th, 2009, 02:46 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:15:29 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

We're all inner-city blacks now
Star Parker: New leaders destroying nation like they did
African-American community


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted: March 07, 2009
1:00 am Eastern



By Star Parker


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Blacks are not given enough credit for being trendsetters in America.



Blacks started playing the blues, jazz, and R&B, then the rest of
America started playing them.



Blacks discovered the politics of victimhood, then the rest of America
started catching on.



Black women got into having babies without marriage. Then white women
started getting into it (the incidence of white out-of-wedlock births
today – almost 30 percent – is higher than the black rate in the
1960s).



Blacks bought into dependency and the welfare state. Now the rest of
America has bought in.



Blacks for years elected politicians championing public policy that
destroyed their own communities. Now the rest of America has installed
a new political leadership with the perfect formula – run roughshod
over private ownership, disdain traditional values, substitute
political power for personal responsibility – for destroying our
country.



We can expect the rest of America to reap the same benefits that
blacks have enjoyed from this lunacy. In the late 1960s, when
President Johnson announced his war on poverty and seeded welfare
state culture in our inner cities, the majority of black families had
married parents living at home. By 1995, only one in three black homes
had married parents.

As the black family collapsed, predictable social pathologies
escalated. Crime, drugs, promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases,
fatherless children, abortion and disdain for education.

Not surprisingly, the black poverty rate, almost a quarter of the
black population, has remained frozen at twice the national average
since the late 1960s.

While the press was having a field day criticizing Gov. Bobby Jindal's
television remarks following President Obama's address to Congress,
too little attention was paid to his personal story. After all, the
father of the 37-year-old Louisiana governor was a poor immigrant from
India.

Not every child of poor immigrants becomes a governor before their
40th birthday, but there is a reason more people from all over the
world want to immigrate to the United States than we're willing to let
in. They come here for opportunity. Children of poor immigrants
getting educated and moving in one generation into the middle class is
the story of America.

Why, then, when poor immigrant families readily move in one generation
into the middle class, does one-fourth of black America remain poor,
generation after generation?

Racism? I don't think so. Black poverty is overwhelmingly a phenomenon
of single-mother homes. The incidence of poverty in black homes with
married parents is around 10 percent, well below the national average.

It's what happens when lives get politicized and people are instructed
to be helpless. In the case of blacks, it's being taught that America
is inherently racist and that their only hope is political protection
from white exploitation.

Our politicians tell us now that we need to turn the whole country
over to them because capitalism has supposedly failed and we need
protection from exploitation by the wealthy.

Has anyone noticed that the only markets that have failed in America
are the ones distorted with major government controls, regulations,
subsidies, or taxpayer guarantees?

University of Michigan economist Mark Perry recently listed on his
blog 16 typical household items – furniture, kitchen appliances,
electronics – showing how many hours of work, at the average wage, it
would take to purchase these items today, compared to 1950. The whole
basket of goods takes one-fifth the amount of hours of work today to
purchase compared to 59 years ago. This is markets and innovation at
work.

Anyone who is curious where the current left wing takeover of our
economy will lead, with government soon taking 40 cents out of every
dollar we produce, should tour through any of America's inner cities.

If we have any luck, some of the better instincts of blacks today will
also set trends. Blacks attend church more than any other group in the
country. And most blacks reject the debasement of the definition of
marriage.

Star Parker is is an author and president of CURE, Coalition on Urban
Renewal and Education. Her books include "White Ghetto: How Middle
Class America Reflects Inner City Decay


Apparently, the more time folks spend with black folks, the more "black" they
become and the more time they spend with whites, the more "white" they become,
and the more educated blacks become, the less tolerant of black lower classes
they become.

HTH,
R
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Old March 15th, 2009, 03:05 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Tom Littleton wrote:
google of Star Parker finds:

first two on the list of glowing recommendations: from
Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. Priceless. Yet another ideologue with an ax
to grind.
Tom


Without any other consideration, Star MUST be evil because she's a
conservative?

WTF is wrong with you?


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Old March 15th, 2009, 03:22 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:21:03 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:

google of Star Parker finds:

first two on the list of glowing recommendations: from
Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. Priceless. Yet another ideologue with an ax
to grind.
Tom




Um, Tom, that's a pretty big logical fallacy. Are you saying that if Limpdick
and Hannity (who, IMO, isn't quite as bad as Rush, but...) suddenly gave Obama
or any of his admin kudos, the receiver of the praise would suddenly be "wrong"
because of it?

FWIW, it appears that Parker does have at least a legit place from which to
offer opinions - she climbed out of "entitlement," and while being black doesn't
make one "smarter" about being black, being black, white, brown, yellow, or
purple certainly gives one at least a chance to gain an insightful inside
perspective that a person of differing skin tone can never have. IOW, all else
being equal, I'll put more stock into the opinion of insider giving "inside
info" over an outsider offering theirs "outside looking in."

HTH,
R
....OTOH, if you're just ****ing with Louie, er, well, nevermind...
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Old March 15th, 2009, 03:39 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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puhlease......She is no more than another installment of a recent trend in
conservative 'news', the black spokesperson. Funny how they've started to
come out of the woodwork in the usual right-wing outlets in the past year or
so. You can almost hear the wheels turning amongst the old boys behind the
scenes," Quick!! Find us some negroes,er, blacks, er, whatever they call
colored people these days to shill our stale BS. We're going to look like
the Great White Party instead of the Grand Old Party soon, and we have to
respond somehow! Quick, quick, before we have to send Bill Kristol and Dick
Morris out in blackface!!

Sorry, gang, but this one isn't buying the BS. This woman just went from
self-described Welfare Scammer to 'find Jesus' and upgrade her scam. Now,
she makes bigger bucks shilling for the Conservatives. Once again, I return
to what I said to Dave in an earlier thread: We have lost the sense of the
informed citizen absorbing a using his/her intellect to dissect hard news.
Talking heads, right and left, have fueled a poisonous discourse. This woman
is just a small part of that poison discourse. She lost me with the line, "
to see what Obama's tax policy will result in, just go to Urban America".
Spare me the bull****.
Tom


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Old March 15th, 2009, 03:42 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Tom Littleton
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"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Without any other consideration, Star MUST be evil because she's a
conservative?

WTF is wrong with you?


evil? No, absolutely not. Credible? Nope....like I said, just another
well-paid shill for ideology. Give me facts, and some real news, not just
stale bombast.
Tom


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Old March 15th, 2009, 04:06 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Peaceful Bill
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Tom Littleton wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Without any other consideration, Star MUST be evil because she's a
conservative?

WTF is wrong with you?


evil? No, absolutely not. Credible? Nope....like I said, just another
well-paid shill for ideology. Give me facts, and some real news, not just
stale bombast.
Tom



So since she's conservative, she has no credibility? So only news that
has an extremist liberal slant is credible? Only reports and people who
agree with your POV are credible?

WTF is wrong with you?
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Old March 15th, 2009, 04:12 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:39:53 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:


puhlease......


OK - how does this sound:

Whomever is no more than another installment of a recent trend in
liberal 'news', the black spokesperson. Funny how they've started to
come out of the woodwork in the usual left-wing outlets in the past year or
so. You can almost hear the wheels turning amongst the old boys behind the
scenes," Quick!! Find us some negroes,er, blacks, er, whatever they call
colored people these days to shill our stale BS. We're going to look like
the Great Black Party instead of the White People Helping The Poor Black
People Party soon, and we have to respond somehow! Quick, quick,
before we have to send D. L Hughley and David Alan Grier to Michael
Jackon's "dermatologist!!"


(NOTE - the above is changed from the original reply written by TL...but not
much...see his original reply for the original language)

Sorry, gang, but this one isn't buying the BS. This woman just went from
self-described Welfare Scammer to 'find Jesus' and upgrade her scam. Now,
she makes bigger bucks shilling for the Conservatives. Once again, I return
to what I said to Dave in an earlier thread: We have lost the sense of the
informed citizen absorbing a using his/her intellect to dissect hard news.
Talking heads, right and left, have fueled a poisonous discourse. This woman
is just a small part of that poison discourse. She lost me with the line, "
to see what Obama's tax policy will result in, just go to Urban America".
Spare me the bull****.
Tom


HTH,
R
 




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