steelhead setup?

I have some questions re flyrods for steelhead. I have fished them in WI
using spinning gear with mono, and don't like it. A longer rod would
probably make a difference I tend to use mostly yarn flies on snelled
hooks or maybe spawn sacks at times.
I hear folks talking of using 8-9 wt flyrods and either mono or flyline
with leaders for this type of drift fishing. Can someone help me in this
regard? I am looking locally here in the Mpls/St Paul area at some
reasonably priced flyrods and reels. Is an 8-9 wt suitable?
How effective is mono on a flyrod/reel setup?
Any inpup appreciated.
Sully

"Sully" wrote in message
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I have some questions re flyrods for steelhead. I have fished them in WI
using spinning gear with mono, and don't like it. A longer rod would
probably make a difference I tend to use mostly yarn flies on snelled
hooks or maybe spawn sacks at times.
I hear folks talking of using 8-9 wt flyrods and either mono or flyline
with leaders for this type of drift fishing. Can someone help me in this
regard? I am looking locally here in the Mpls/St Paul area at some
reasonably priced flyrods and reels. Is an 8-9 wt suitable?
How effective is mono on a flyrod/reel setup?
Any inpup appreciated.
Sully

Eight or nine weight will do just fine. If you want to fish flies, use a
fly line and appropriate leader.....others will probably be along shortly to
give you more specific information. Otherwise, there is a wealth of
information on line......I don't happen to know of any specific sites
myself, but a Google search using the appropriate key words shouldn't be too
tough.

If you choose to use spawn sacks.....a very popular "traditional"
method.....monofilament is preferred. Never done it myself, but again,
there are lots of sources on line.

You should also be able to get all the information you want at any decent
fly shop, even if it doesn't happen to be near any steelhead water.

Good luck.

Wolfgang

The greatest advantage in fly casting is the control that you have on the
depth that you are fishing. The next biggest advantage is that the fly
(lure) can weigh next to nothing since the line is the weight. That means
you can fish tiny flies. If you use mono, you are going to have to use a
heavly lure, or heavy weight and it will always be on bottom(not a bad
strategy). If you are going to fish with mono, I think that the advantage
would be with a longer spin or casting rod. you can get them more than 7'
long.

The size of a fly rod is mostly determined by three factors. One is wind: if
there is often a lot of wind go with bigger gear. Two is the size flies;
larger flies require bigger rods. Three is if you want to be able to lift
the fish out of the water with the rod. Big fish..big rod. For all of
these reasons and 8 or 9 is probably the most commonly rod used in steelhead
fishing.

Finally, I do a lot of steelhead fishing on the west coast, and have never
run into anyone using mono in a fly rod. I don't know why you would use an
expensive fly rod to do what an inexpensive spinning rod would do.


"Sully" wrote in message
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I have some questions re flyrods for steelhead. I have fished them in WI
using spinning gear with mono, and don't like it. A longer rod would
probably make a difference I tend to use mostly yarn flies on snelled
hooks or maybe spawn sacks at times.
I hear folks talking of using 8-9 wt flyrods and either mono or flyline
with leaders for this type of drift fishing. Can someone help me in this
regard? I am looking locally here in the Mpls/St Paul area at some
reasonably priced flyrods and reels. Is an 8-9 wt suitable?
How effective is mono on a flyrod/reel setup?
Any inpup appreciated.
Sully



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Hi Sully,

I was named after my dad's best friend, Bill Sullivan......he was 'Sully'
too.

After WWII, it was very popular to use a larger fly rod (9' #9 line
fiberglass) and large Pflueger fly reel with very large (~40#) mono and then
a short leader with a weight and salmon roe to 'strip cast' for steelhead on
our coast in very small brushy streams.

In the past I have seen people take long fiberglass fly rods (8 1/2') and
use them for bait fishing in trout streams because they are long and
flexible. Some times they actually change the reel seat/cork handle and
guides to spinning style.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Sully" wrote in message
...

I have some questions re flyrods for steelhead. I have fished them in WI
using spinning gear with mono, and don't like it. A longer rod would
probably make a difference I tend to use mostly yarn flies on snelled
hooks or maybe spawn sacks at times.
I hear folks talking of using 8-9 wt flyrods and either mono or flyline
with leaders for this type of drift fishing. Can someone help me in this
regard? I am looking locally here in the Mpls/St Paul area at some
reasonably priced flyrods and reels. Is an 8-9 wt suitable?
How effective is mono on a flyrod/reel setup?
Any inpup appreciated.
Sully

In article ,
"Bill Kiene" wrote:

Hi Sully,

I was named after my dad's best friend, Bill Sullivan......he was 'Sully'
too.

Is he related to Pat Sullivan (I think thats his name, big financial guy
on television in the sacramento area). I was friends with his son Brad
Sullivan.

Steve Sullivan wrote:

In article ,
"Bill Kiene" wrote:


Hi Sully,

I was named after my dad's best friend, Bill Sullivan......he was 'Sully'
too.


Is he related to Pat Sullivan (I think thats his name, big financial guy
on television in the sacramento area). I was friends with his son Brad
Sullivan.

I know you were addressing Bill Kiene here, but I can't resist. One of
my brothers is named Pat, but no big financial guy! He's a Physical
Therapist. My son's name is Brad. Lots of Sullivans out there.

I have three brothers, all known to their friends as Sully. Along with
my dad, the original Sully around here. When we were all younger and
still at home, the phone would ring and someone would ask: "Is Sully
there?" Answer: "Probably. Which one?"
Wh All the boys are married now, two have sons, also known as Sully.
It never ends.
Sully

"Sully" wrote in message
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...All the boys are married now, two have sons, also known as Sully.
It never ends.
Sully

Change your name to Yama****a, Kromenhoek, Przwalski, or
Siebeneich.......problem solved.......guaranteed.

Wolfgang
trust me.

Wolfgang Change your name to Yama****a, Kromenhoek, Przwalski, or
Wolfgang Siebeneich.......problem solved.......guaranteed.

What do you mean by that, Sieby?

--
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In article , Sully
wrote:



Steve Sullivan wrote:

In article ,
"Bill Kiene" wrote:


Hi Sully,

I was named after my dad's best friend, Bill Sullivan......he was 'Sully'
too.


Is he related to Pat Sullivan (I think thats his name, big financial guy
on television in the sacramento area). I was friends with his son Brad
Sullivan.

I know you were addressing Bill Kiene here, but I can't resist. One of
my brothers is named Pat, but no big financial guy! He's a Physical
Therapist. My son's name is Brad. Lots of Sullivans out there.

I have three brothers, all known to their friends as Sully. Along with
my dad, the original Sully around here. When we were all younger and
still at home, the phone would ring and someone would ask: "Is Sully
there?" Answer: "Probably. Which one?"
Wh All the boys are married now, two have sons, also known as Sully.
It never ends.
Sully

And then I am sure you can guess what my nick name is. And also what my
brothers nickname is. As well as my dad's nick name.

On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 20:02:36 -0500, Sully wrote:

I have some questions re flyrods for steelhead. I have fished them in WI
using spinning gear with mono, and don't like it. A longer rod would
probably make a difference I tend to use mostly yarn flies on snelled
hooks or maybe spawn sacks at times.
I hear folks talking of using 8-9 wt flyrods and either mono or flyline
with leaders for this type of drift fishing. Can someone help me in this
regard? I am looking locally here in the Mpls/St Paul area at some
reasonably priced flyrods and reels. Is an 8-9 wt suitable?
How effective is mono on a flyrod/reel setup?
Any inpup appreciated.
Sully

You're describing the typical chuck 'n' duck rig. The common fly
setup on our side of the lakes is a 10' - 7 wt., a regular WF floating
line, and a typical nymph terminal tackle. A lot of people just nymph
for steelhead as if they're after resident trout. They'll hit a swung
fly as well but the hookup rate is not as good as when nymping.



Peter

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