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Old April 18th, 2004, 03:26 PM
Dave Mc
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What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?

Your at a gold medal, medium sized stream, trout are 10" to 20"
and they're all over the place, but won't take anything. The area is well
fished, the fish are spooky but also used to fisherman being around so, they
don't run and hide. No hatch, no fish rising.



Casting?- putting the fly exactly where it needs to be.
Fly selection?- match what they're eating!
Presentation?- drag free, correct depth.
Stealth?- don't let them know you there.

I realize all of these aspects are very important to a successful trip
but only pick one!.
I've only been fly fishing a few years but,
my guess would be presentation.
Just curious about what you guys think.

Thanks,
Dave Mc



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Old April 18th, 2004, 04:44 PM
Willi
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Dave Mc wrote:

What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?

Your at a gold medal, medium sized stream, trout are 10" to 20"
and they're all over the place, but won't take anything. The area is well
fished, the fish are spooky but also used to fisherman being around so, they
don't run and hide. No hatch, no fish rising.



Casting?- putting the fly exactly where it needs to be.
Fly selection?- match what they're eating!
Presentation?- drag free, correct depth.
Stealth?- don't let them know you there.

I realize all of these aspects are very important to a successful trip
but only pick one!.
I've only been fly fishing a few years but,
my guess would be presentation.
Just curious about what you guys think.

Thanks,
Dave Mc


On heavily fished water like you describe I'd rate them:

Presentation, fly selection, casting (reading water), stealth.

However, you probably have to use the first three to have consistent
success.

On other waters, the order would be different.

Willi




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Old April 18th, 2004, 05:35 PM
daytripper
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:26:00 -0600, "Dave Mc" wrote:

What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?

Your at a gold medal, medium sized stream, trout are 10" to 20"
and they're all over the place, but won't take anything. The area is well
fished, the fish are spooky but also used to fisherman being around so, they
don't run and hide. No hatch, no fish rising.

Casting?- putting the fly exactly where it needs to be.
Fly selection?- match what they're eating!
Presentation?- drag free, correct depth.
Stealth?- don't let them know you there.


The quality of the doobage is paramount...

/daytripper (And thanks for asking ;-)
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Old April 18th, 2004, 05:54 PM
Larry Medina
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Dave Mc wrote:
What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?

Your at a gold medal, medium sized stream, trout are 10" to 20"
and they're all over the place, but won't take anything. The area is well
fished, the fish are spooky but also used to fisherman being around so, they
don't run and hide. No hatch, no fish rising.



Casting?- putting the fly exactly where it needs to be.
Fly selection?- match what they're eating!
Presentation?- drag free, correct depth.
Stealth?- don't let them know you there.

I realize all of these aspects are very important to a successful trip
but only pick one!.
I've only been fly fishing a few years but,
my guess would be presentation.
Just curious about what you guys think.


I'd say presentation and fly selection. Actually, the other two
(casting and stealth) are sort of components of presentation...

Lots of times they won't take anything because there's plenty of food
for them already in the water, so flay selection becomes critical
because you need something to illicit a strike/rise than entices or
angers them.... and in these cases, a "drag free" presentation may NOT
BE what you're looking for... you might need to "skate" a fly across the
surface or "swing" a streamer past the lie of a holding fish.

Larry
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Old April 18th, 2004, 06:56 PM
Mike Connor
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"Dave Mc" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?


Enjoying it.

TL
MC



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Old April 18th, 2004, 08:40 PM
rw
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daytripper wrote:


The quality of the doobage is paramount...


No way, dude. It's catching fish. Duh!

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Old April 18th, 2004, 09:01 PM
Tom Littleton
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Mike answers:
Enjoying it.


We have a winner!!! The Only correct answer possible to this question. Many
times in the situation described, folks allow fishing to become angst-ridden.
Within the confines of the original question, stealth goes a lot farther than
people assume. Just because the fish are "used" to people fishing, doesn't mean
they are happy about it, or feed normally when people are observed. Try hiding
very quietly and see if they don't start feeding.....then trot out the other
skills mentioned.
Tom
p.s. this hiding period might take quite a while for the fish to relax, so
refer to Daytripper's answer, as well.
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Old April 18th, 2004, 09:27 PM
Doug Kanter
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"Larry Medina" wrote in message
. com...
Dave Mc wrote:
What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?

Your at a gold medal, medium sized stream, trout are 10" to 20"
and they're all over the place, but won't take anything. The area is

well
fished, the fish are spooky but also used to fisherman being around so,

they
don't run and hide. No hatch, no fish rising.



Casting?- putting the fly exactly where it needs to be.
Fly selection?- match what they're eating!
Presentation?- drag free, correct depth.
Stealth?- don't let them know you there.

I realize all of these aspects are very important to a successful trip
but only pick one!.
I've only been fly fishing a few years but,
my guess would be presentation.
Just curious about what you guys think.


I'd say presentation and fly selection. Actually, the other two
(casting and stealth) are sort of components of presentation...

Lots of times they won't take anything because there's plenty of food
for them already in the water, so flay selection becomes critical
because you need something to illicit a strike/rise than entices or
angers them.... and in these cases, a "drag free" presentation may NOT
BE what you're looking for... you might need to "skate" a fly across the
surface or "swing" a streamer past the lie of a holding fish.

Larry


Hey....odd presentations work for every OTHER kind of fish at one time or
another. Why not trout, too?


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Old April 18th, 2004, 09:34 PM
Mike
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Trippers answer is correct no matter what the situation......Othe than that
throw a concussion grenade open up a fish see what they are eating select
proper fly move upstream about a mile and try again......


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick

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Old April 18th, 2004, 10:49 PM
Tim J.
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"Dave Mc" wrote...
What do you think is the most important aspect in fly fishing?

Your at a gold medal, medium sized stream, trout are 10" to 20"
and they're all over the place, but won't take anything. The area is well
fished, the fish are spooky but also used to fisherman being around so, they
don't run and hide. No hatch, no fish rising.

Casting?- putting the fly exactly where it needs to be.
Fly selection?- match what they're eating!
Presentation?- drag free, correct depth.
Stealth?- don't let them know you there.


None of the above. I just got back from fishing a stream much like you describe,
and the most important aspect is to not have some freakin' a-hole on the
opposite bank wade - no splash like a baby in a wading pool - within ten feet
upstream of the run you're trying to fish, then stand 10 feet away from you
while he casts into the pool you were stalking that now has no fish. Then make
sure he doesn't get a phone call and talk on the phone like he's in a busy bus
terminal.

Hmmm, I guess I *am* a little ****ed. ;-) I spent the whole weekend with
honey-dos just so I could disappear for a few hours today to get some peace and
quiet on the stream for the first time this season. Yeah, that worked out well.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj


 




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