Fish do/don't anticipate things? (was: "ARAs" against Game chickens)

On 01 Sep 2005 22:11:36 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

"Rudy Canoza" writes:

That's what self awareness IS, you stupid unthinking uneducated
Southern hillbilly tub of ****.

Are you really this incredibly boorish in person? dh@ appears to be
trying valiantly to have a conversation, and your response is to paint
yourself as an idiot.

He actually is exposing himself, and it is quite incredible. I find it
very hard to believe he's actually as stupid as he insists that he is,
but I do continue to underestimate how stupid he turns out to really
be. It's hard to say how much is for real....

Check this out:
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From: Rudy Canoza
Message-ID: . net
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 20:40:05 GMT

Non human animals experience neither pride nor
disappointment. They don't have the mental ability to
feel either.
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From: Rudy Canoza
Message-ID: .net
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:15:08 GMT

No. It's not anticipation, and not disappointment.


and also frustration,

No. Animals do not experience frustration.
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From: Rudy Canoza
Message-ID: k.net
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:21:03 GMT

Dogs NEVER anticipate, nor do cats, or
cattle, or any other animal you've ever encountered.
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From: Rudy Canoza
Message-ID: k.net
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 15:48:32 GMT

Animals do not experience pride or disappointment. Period.
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No animals anticipate.
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From: Rudy Canoza
Message-ID: .net
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 03:07:09 GMT

Anticipation requires language.
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Those are all things he claims to believe. Here are some more,
and I'll include a bunch to show how strongly he believes this:
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From: Jonathan Ball
Message-ID: k.net
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 04:53:59 GMT

NO animals "benefit" from being born
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From: Jonathan Ball
Message-ID: . net
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:09:49 GMT

No animal benefits from being born. Period.
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From: Jonathan Ball
Message-ID: et
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:12:48 GMT

NO animals benefit from being born, ****wit. None.
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From: Jonathan Ball
Message-ID: k.net
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:16:38 GMT

NO animals benefit from being born
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From: Jonathan Ball
Message-ID: . net
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 04:33:07 GMT

NO animal benefits from being born
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From: Jonathan Ball
Message-ID: . net
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 07:53:46 GMT

Being born is not a benefit in any way. It can't be.
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From: Jonathan Ball
Message-ID: t
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:20:32 GMT

NO animals 'benefit' from being born, ****wit. Not a
single one.
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From: Jonathan Ball
Message-ID: .net
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:53:53 GMT

Being born is not a benefit, ****WIT; it cannot be.
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From: Jonathan Ball
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:22:32 GMT

Life is not a "benefit"
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Repeat after me, ****wit: life, itself, cannot be a
"benefit".
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From: Jonathan Ball
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:12:20 GMT

Life per se - basic existence - is not a benefit to any
creature.
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From: Jonathan Ball
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Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 22:46:32 GMT

You are wrong, JethroDonkey****tardMoron: life is not
a "benefit". It can't be.
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From: Jonathan Ball
Message-ID: k.net
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:02:35 GMT

1. Life per se is not a benefit.
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From: Jonathan Ball
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 23:00:34 -0800
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Life itself is not a benefit
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From: Jonathan Ball
Message-ID: .net
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 05:20:00 GMT

Life per se is not a benefit at all. It
can't be.
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From: Jonathan Ball
Message-ID: . net
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:51:20 GMT

"Life" is not a benefit
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From: Jonathan Ball
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:08:13 -0800
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"Life" is not a benefit
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From: Jonathan Ball
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 19:19:32 GMT

I have examined the question at length, and feel
there is only one reasonable conclusion: life, per se,
is not a benefit.
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I strongly disagree with Goo.