Czech Nymphing

Dave LaCourse wrote in article

Yep, except the true Czech nympher uses three flies and no weight. He
gets the three flies down by using a heavily weighted fly in the
middle, while the other two are unweighted. I find that method
cumbersome, at best, and tried to advise the man to use but one nymph.

Yeah - the 3 nymph method - especially any directions or techniques for
tying. The weighted center fly (as opposed to lead) looks like a good
alternative ... less hardware to snag ... but we're talking a hefty fly
here to substitute for 3 BB's (which is the approximate weight we needed
for the Kern's flow rate) ... I do remember that flies are tied off the
tag ends of the surgeon's knots used to connect the sections of the rig.
The whole rig's kind of time-consuming for me to tie ... it almost seems
like you'd want to make up a couple in advance for when you eventually lose
a whole rig on a bottom snag.

Instead of using the tag ends of a surgeon's knot to set the flies out from
the main leader, I wonder if there is a knot to tie in an auxilliary tag
that can be trimmed to the desired length ... would help if one of the tags
gets too short after changing or losing a fly.
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-dnc-

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:52:56 -0600, "Fiddleaway"
wrote:

The weighted center fly (as opposed to lead) looks like a good
alternative ... less hardware to snag ... but we're talking a hefty fly
here to substitute for 3 BB's (which is the approximate weight we needed
for the Kern's flow rate)

Let's start with the tag end fly (from the surgeons knot) and call
that fly #1

The second fly, which will be in the middle of the rig, and is the
hefty one used to get the rig down, is tied to the end of that tippet.

The third fly is ties from the bend of the hook of the 2nd fly. Take
a piece of tippet and tie it to the bend of the heavy (2nd) fly. At
the end of that tippet you tie fly #3.

l
l
l\
l \O
l
l
6
l
l
lF
Where l\ is your surgeon knot
O is your first fly
6 is your weighted fly
F is your third fly tied to the bend of 6

Dave

Dave LaCourse wrote


l
l
l\
l \O
l
l
6
l
l
lF
Where l\ is your surgeon knot
O is your first fly
6 is your weighted fly
F is your third fly tied to the bend of 6

Ahhh! The rig I used also had '6' on a tag end (ergo, 2 surgeon's knots)
with the BB's just above the '6' surgeon's knot. With the weight in the
fly, you apparently don't need it to stand off from the leader. Cool.
Reduces complexity.
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-dnc-
Now I can tie it in 1 hour instead of 2

In article ,
Dave LaCourse wrote:


l
l
l\
l \O
l
l
6
l
l
lF
Where l\ is your surgeon knot
O is your first fly
6 is your weighted fly
F is your third fly tied to the bend of 6

wont your first fly wrap around the main line?

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Somewhere in Texas a village is missing their Idiot.

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 03:01:31 -0800, JDOE wrote:

wont your first fly wrap around the main line?

Nope.

JDOE wrote:
In article ,
Dave LaCourse wrote:


l
l
l\
l \O
l
l
6
l
l
lF
Where l\ is your surgeon knot
O is your first fly
6 is your weighted fly
F is your third fly tied to the bend of 6


wont your first fly wrap around the main line?



Yes. It will twist around the leader to some extent but usually not so
much so the fly gets snagged. I tie flies off a tippet tag like that
when I'm fishing soft hackles. The tag should be of the heavier line. I
use a heavy fly at the very end to "anchor" the rig and by lifting the
line off the water, you can make the upper fly(s) bouce along the
surface. Sometimes this is VERY effective, often it doesn't work, but if
it does it's very exciting fishing. You get hard slashing, splashy hits
as the fish throw themselves at your fly. You get alot of missed strikes
but you can sometimes get the fish to hit again with a dead drift
through the area.

When I fish nymphs, I tie the second fly off the bend of the hook. Bruce
and some others tie them off the eye.

Willi