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Old June 25th, 2006, 03:26 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Alaskan420 wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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Warning: There's seriously gruesome photo in this article.

http://mountainsurvival.com/news_art...earattack.html

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There is another reason to doubt the truthfulness of picture #3.

Alaskan
Browns have this funny habit of burying their kills for a few days to
ferment the meat and then circling around their territory and coming

back
3-4 days later after it's cooked to taste. ( See Bear Spray recipe.) I

have
run across numerous mounds over the years with moose calves and smaller
adult moose in them.

This hiker actually looks more like what would be expcted of a wolf

attack,
(not to cross threads here), or immature brown, unless the photo was

taken
after rescuers began to prepare him for removal.


Hm.......

Exactly how many wolf-chewed human carcasses have you seen?

Wolfgang


Hm.......

I'm not certain why the quantity of observations is relevant unless of
course it took you several attempts at observing a rainbow and a catfish
side by side to be able to tell the difference, but seeing as you asked...

That photo would be the 3rd human. However, the source of the meal, (human
or otherwise), has very little to do with how they attack and devour. I
have seen several dozen moose and caribou that had been killed. Bears and
wolves have very distinct methods of killing and eating that leave obvious
evidence indicating the attacker.

Your sarcasm is appreciated though. Always good for a chuckle.


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A misplaced Alaskan lost in ConUS


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Old June 25th, 2006, 06:52 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Alaskan420" wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote:
Hm.......

Exactly how many wolf-chewed human carcasses have you seen?

Wolfgang


Hm.......

I'm not certain why the quantity of observations is relevant unless of


Wolves don't chew humans... The quantity of known observations
is zero.

That photo would be the 3rd human. However, the source of the meal, (human
or otherwise), has very little to do with how they attack and devour. I
have seen several dozen moose and caribou that had been killed. Bears and
wolves have very distinct methods of killing and eating that leave obvious
evidence indicating the attacker.


Usually tracks and scat are the only way to know. Certainly
that picture give no clue at all.

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Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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Old June 25th, 2006, 02:21 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Alaskan420 wrote:
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Exactly how many wolf-chewed human carcasses have you seen?

Wolfgang


Hm.......

I'm not certain why the quantity of observations is relevant unless of
course it took you several attempts at observing a rainbow and a catfish
side by side to be able to tell the difference, but seeing as you asked...


I had to look at quite a few brown trout and brook trout before I could
unfailingly distinguish between them. I never confused a rainbow with
either of them. The differences between any of them and any species of
catfish was a no brainer.

That photo would be the 3rd human. However, the source of the meal, (human
or otherwise), has very little to do with how they attack and devour. I
have seen several dozen moose and caribou that had been killed. Bears and
wolves have very distinct methods of killing and eating that leave obvious
evidence indicating the attacker.

Your sarcasm is appreciated though. Always good for a chuckle.


Sarcasm? The distinctions between wolf kills and bear kills are not
evident to me. Apparently they are to you. I don't suppose that my
curiosity alone will be enough to entice you in to a detailed analysis,
but there must be others as ignorant.....and willing to learn.....as
me. Educate us.......please.

Wolfgang

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Old June 25th, 2006, 04:06 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Wolfgang" wrote:
Alaskan420 wrote:
Sarcasm? The distinctions between wolf kills and bear kills are not
evident to me. Apparently they are to you. I don't suppose that my
curiosity alone will be enough to entice you in to a detailed analysis,
but there must be others as ignorant.....and willing to learn.....as
me. Educate us.......please.


It should be really easy to distinguish between a bear kill and
a wolf kill, don't you think?

There would be bear scat all over the place, and it is either
berries, salmon, or human remains.

Or there would be wolf scat all over the place, and that of
course would be filled with hairs and bones from mice. (See
Mowhat, in the fiction section of your local library.)

[Sarcasm?]

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Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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Old June 26th, 2006, 03:33 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

It should be really easy to distinguish between a bear kill and
a wolf kill, don't you think?


It might be under certain cirucmstances (like, for instance, if wolves
killed people, that would be a good start) but, no, generally speaking,
I can't see any reason to think so.

There would be bear scat all over the place, and it is either
berries, salmon, or human remains.

Or there would be wolf scat all over the place, and that of
course would be filled with hairs and bones from mice. (See
Mowhat, in the fiction section of your local library.)


I'm going to guess that there is enough overlap in the diets of bears
and wolves that there is a great deal of room for error. Besides, is
there any good reason to suppose that either would necessarily shy from
partaking og the other's leftovers?

It's been a long time now, but up until the eraly 90s or so, I'd read
pretty much evereything that Mowat had published for the the general
reader. I'm afraid that's just not good enough for a definitive answer
to this conundrum.

[Sarcasm?]


Well, it DOES happen here from time to time.

Wolfgang

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Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)


 




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