bear attack in Alaska

On 25 Jun 2006 05:54:23 -0700, "Rock Wolf"
wrote:

I figure that once anyone figures they are an expert on wolves, bears,
etc., the odds rise that they will get their ass in trouble.

Mr. Treadwell and his girlfriend as an example.

"Alaskan420" wrote:
"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message
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"Alaskan420" wrote:
"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message
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"Alaskan420" wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
SNIP
The idea that a healthy wolf will not attack humans is just plain false.

No, it is basically true. It is not *guaranteed* true though!
In general, if you don't have an habituated wolf or a sick wolf,
there is little to fear. (Which basically does mean that any
wolf you can get close to is *extremely* dangerous!)

Floyd,

How does habituated / socialized equal unhealthy?
In the State report I linked to there are numerous attacks by healthy,
(i.e., capable of hunting), wolves.

I'm saying that rabid wolves attack people, *and* so do wolves
that are socialized. Two distinct causes with the same effect.

Note my point about getting close to a wolf. If you can, it is
generally either sick and doesn't care, or is socialized and not
affraid of you. Both indicate a very dangerous situation.

--
Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:39:32 -0800, (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

Floyd, I think you and I sat together on a flight to Anchorage about 3
years ago. We talked about Alaskan natives and their problems with
alcohol and unemployment. I believe the flight started in Salt Lake,
but I'm not sure. We were in first class.

Dave

wrote:
On 25 Jun 2006 05:54:23 -0700, "Rock Wolf"
wrote:

I figure that once anyone figures they are an expert on wolves, bears,
etc., the odds rise that they will get their ass in trouble.

Mr. Treadwell and his girlfriend as an example.

Treadwell demonstrates insanity, not expertize.

--
Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:39:32 -0800, (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

Floyd, I think you and I sat together on a flight to Anchorage about 3
years ago. We talked about Alaskan natives and their problems with
alcohol and unemployment. I believe the flight started in Salt Lake,
but I'm not sure. We were in first class.

Never been to Salt Lake, and have never sat in the first class
section of an airplane either!

Alcohol and unemployment are universal problems that plague all
Alaskans.

On the other hand, it isn't hard to get me going on Native
politics! Or more precisely, the clash between Western culture
and Native cultures. I'm not exactly well disposed towards most
non-Native interaction with Native people... we are far too
inclined to simply take what they have, leave them with what we
don't want, and then ask "What's the problem?".

--
Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:49:31 -0800, (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

wrote:
On 25 Jun 2006 05:54:23 -0700, "Rock Wolf"
wrote:

I figure that once anyone figures they are an expert on wolves, bears,
etc., the odds rise that they will get their ass in trouble.

Mr. Treadwell and his girlfriend as an example.

Treadwell demonstrates insanity, not expertize.


But he was sure that he was an expert. He convinced many people that
he was an expert. So he comes under the '...figures they are an
expert...' statement above. No one was able to convince him that he
was a crazy dilettante, even though that was the truth.
--

r.bc: vixen
Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher, etc..
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. Really.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

It should be really easy to distinguish between a bear kill and
a wolf kill, don't you think?

It might be under certain cirucmstances (like, for instance, if wolves
killed people, that would be a good start) but, no, generally speaking,
I can't see any reason to think so.

There would be bear scat all over the place, and it is either
berries, salmon, or human remains.

Or there would be wolf scat all over the place, and that of
course would be filled with hairs and bones from mice. (See
Mowhat, in the fiction section of your local library.)

I'm going to guess that there is enough overlap in the diets of bears
and wolves that there is a great deal of room for error. Besides, is
there any good reason to suppose that either would necessarily shy from
partaking og the other's leftovers?

It's been a long time now, but up until the eraly 90s or so, I'd read
pretty much evereything that Mowat had published for the the general
reader. I'm afraid that's just not good enough for a definitive answer
to this conundrum.

[Sarcasm?]

Well, it DOES happen here from time to time.

Wolfgang

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Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)