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To stock or not to stock a wild trout stream. That is the question.



 
 
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Old August 21st, 2006, 05:21 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default To stock or not to stock a wild trout stream. That is the question.


Tim J. wrote:
typed:
daytripper wrote:
http://www.benningtonbanner.com/localnews/ci_4200376

Discuss.


Something I would like to get clear before I make up myu mind on this.

From this article from the Burlington Free Press:


http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=4

"In addition, the stocked rainbows would probably crowd out the wild
fish as they compete for the few hiding places. That's the last thing
the wild trout need or deserve.
Finally, the river and its wildlife are already under great stress
from both drought and high water. This is not the time to increase the
pressure on the river's overall health or the fish trying to survive
there."

So let me get this absolutely straight.

The anglers are, at once, concerned that the stocked rainbow would
stress the wild trout and it's also suggested that the wild trout are
under "GREAT STRESS FROM BOTH DROUGHT AND HIGH WATER" (which makes no
damned sense?) yet, the anglers continue to catch and release these
fish anyway?

Help me understand what is *really* going on here.


Here's what's going on (reprinted from alt.flyfishing):
I did notice that you showed back up at ROFF, after saying your good-byes
a
few weeks back?

Op


Nothing more than going back and trolling in the easy holes. Satsifies
my jones a little while we get our community established here.

Your pal,

TBone

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The Walmart article was an easy hole. This is not an easy hole, by any
stretch of the imagination. I might even (3) putt on this one. I have
also mailed another letter to Vermont F&G asking about the stress of
catch and release on trout that are greatly stressed by draught,
relative to the stress of 1,000 additional fish and where the
'sincerity' about the health of the population was.

TBone
Guilt replaced the creel.

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Old August 21st, 2006, 05:36 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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...'sincerity'...


I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Dumbass.

Wolfgang


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Old August 21st, 2006, 05:57 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Wolfgang wrote:
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...'sincerity'...


I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Dumbass.

Wolfgang


When hit squarely between the eyes with inescapable logic the best this
group can muster is invectives and ad hominem attacks. Time and time
again.

I can't believe this one though. This is almost as bad as the pseudo
conservation crap surrounding the Frying Pan releases to save the
endangered species on the lower Colorado. When the CDOW demanded higher
flows to prevent the extinction of fish, the fly shops, educators of
"all wild things to be conserved" cried "but we can't fish in the
higher flows". And so it was. Then the mudslide covered the gravel and
the only thing that would bring the hatches back was a flood release
from Reudi. And so it was.

Good grief.

Halfordian Golfer
It is impossible to catch and release a wild trout.

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Old August 21st, 2006, 06:32 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Wolfgang wrote:
wrote in message
ps.com...

...'sincerity'...


I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Dumbass.

Wolfgang


When hit squarely between the eyes with inescapable logic the best this
group can muster is invectives and ad hominem attacks. Time and time
again.


Ad hominem arguments take the form of:

1. Timmy says blah blah.
2. Timmy is a dumbass.
3. Thus, blah blah is false.

You see the problem? You have seen to it that no one here has any reason to
give a damn what your position and supporting arguments are. Therefore,
pointing out that you are a dumbass cannot be an ad hominem argument.

I can't believe this one though. This is almost as bad as the pseudo
conservation crap surrounding the Frying Pan releases to save the
endangered species on the lower Colorado. When the CDOW demanded higher
flows to prevent the extinction of fish, the fly shops, educators of
"all wild things to be conserved" cried "but we can't fish in the
higher flows". And so it was. Then the mudslide covered the gravel and
the only thing that would bring the hatches back was a flood release
from Reudi. And so it was.


Dumbass.

Good grief.

Halfordian Golfer
It is impossible to catch and release a wild trout.


Idiot.

Wolfgang


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Old August 21st, 2006, 07:24 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default To stock or not to stock a wild trout stream. That is the question.


Wolfgang wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Wolfgang wrote:
wrote in message
ps.com...

...'sincerity'...

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Dumbass.

Wolfgang


When hit squarely between the eyes with inescapable logic the best this
group can muster is invectives and ad hominem attacks. Time and time
again.


Ad hominem arguments take the form of:

1. Timmy says blah blah.
2. Timmy is a dumbass.
3. Thus, blah blah is false.

You see the problem? You have seen to it that no one here has any reason to
give a damn what your position and supporting arguments are. Therefore,
pointing out that you are a dumbass cannot be an ad hominem argument.

I can't believe this one though. This is almost as bad as the pseudo
conservation crap surrounding the Frying Pan releases to save the
endangered species on the lower Colorado. When the CDOW demanded higher
flows to prevent the extinction of fish, the fly shops, educators of
"all wild things to be conserved" cried "but we can't fish in the
higher flows". And so it was. Then the mudslide covered the gravel and
the only thing that would bring the hatches back was a flood release
from Reudi. And so it was.


Dumbass.

Good grief.

Halfordian Golfer
It is impossible to catch and release a wild trout.


Idiot.

Wolfgang


**** you.

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Old August 21st, 2006, 07:30 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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**** you.


Which is simply a paraphrase of exactly what you have been saying to
everyone in this newsgroup for years.

And......what?......you thought nobody got it?

Wolfgang
mother siebeneich never raised such a foolish child.


 




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