To stock or not to stock a wild trout stream. That is the question.

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On 25 Aug 2006 08:41:51 -0700, wrote:

It really chaps my butt when so called brothers of the angle denegrate
people who understand this, who like to eat wild fish, harvest the
bounty of nature, while claiming moral high ground when their only
using the animal to promote the latest vest fashion. Turns out the fish
from the high seas fish farms are poison. Only wild fish is the real
McCoy. As I said years ago, when I was 'sent to the grocer': What price
then, for wild brook trout meat?

Tim, how can we make you understand that if all the rivers and streams
in this great land were catch and kill, there would be nothing but
stocked fish in them.

To wit, The Rapid River in Maine.

It used to be catch and kill (1 brookie/day). Fifteen years ago if
you caught a 15 inch brook trout, it was the catch of the day. And
many fishermen would kill that 15 incher and eat it. I *know* how
good it must have tasted, but that fish was part of the breeding
stock. The ration then was about 1 brook trout for every 10 salmon
landed. Today things have changed.

After declaring brook trout catch and release ONLY, they have come
back to the point where five pounders are not uncommon. Five
pounders! Now when you catch a fish, if you don't see the take, you
don't know whether it's a brookie or a salmon. During the fight, of
course, you can tell. The ratio now is about 50/50, unheard of 15
years ago.

Conclusion: Catch and release has brought the brook trout population
*specific* to this river back to normal. It has saved this strain of
brook trout from extinction.

As you would have it, you'd say, "Who gives a ****. Stock pellet
rainbows. Everyone'll be happy." And *that* my friend is bull****.

Dave

Gee Dave, the world manages fisheries around the concept of harvest. I
wonder how in the world they do that!!!!!

They deplete fish stocks all over the world.

Dumbass.

Wolfgang

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On 25 Aug 2006 08:41:51 -0700, wrote:

It really chaps my butt when so called brothers of the angle denegrate
people who understand this, who like to eat wild fish, harvest the
bounty of nature, while claiming moral high ground when their only
using the animal to promote the latest vest fashion. Turns out the fish
from the high seas fish farms are poison. Only wild fish is the real
McCoy. As I said years ago, when I was 'sent to the grocer': What price
then, for wild brook trout meat?

Tim, how can we make you understand that if all the rivers and streams
in this great land were catch and kill, there would be nothing but
stocked fish in them.

To wit, The Rapid River in Maine.

It used to be catch and kill (1 brookie/day). Fifteen years ago if
you caught a 15 inch brook trout, it was the catch of the day. And
many fishermen would kill that 15 incher and eat it. I *know* how
good it must have tasted, but that fish was part of the breeding
stock. The ration then was about 1 brook trout for every 10 salmon
landed. Today things have changed.

After declaring brook trout catch and release ONLY, they have come
back to the point where five pounders are not uncommon. Five
pounders! Now when you catch a fish, if you don't see the take, you
don't know whether it's a brookie or a salmon. During the fight, of
course, you can tell. The ratio now is about 50/50, unheard of 15
years ago.

Conclusion: Catch and release has brought the brook trout population
*specific* to this river back to normal. It has saved this strain of
brook trout from extinction.

As you would have it, you'd say, "Who gives a ****. Stock pellet
rainbows. Everyone'll be happy." And *that* my friend is bull****.

Dave

Gee Dave, the world manages fisheries around the concept of harvest. I
wonder how in the world they do that!!!!!

They deplete fish stocks all over the world.

Dumbass.

Wolfgang

I spent 4 years in the US Coast Guard making sure they did not, at
least in US Coastal waters.

Your pal,

Halfordian Golfer

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Wolfgang wrote:
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On 25 Aug 2006 08:41:51 -0700, wrote:

It really chaps my butt when so called brothers of the angle
denegrate
people who understand this, who like to eat wild fish, harvest the
bounty of nature, while claiming moral high ground when their only
using the animal to promote the latest vest fashion. Turns out the
fish
from the high seas fish farms are poison. Only wild fish is the real
McCoy. As I said years ago, when I was 'sent to the grocer': What
price
then, for wild brook trout meat?

Tim, how can we make you understand that if all the rivers and streams
in this great land were catch and kill, there would be nothing but
stocked fish in them.

To wit, The Rapid River in Maine.

It used to be catch and kill (1 brookie/day). Fifteen years ago if
you caught a 15 inch brook trout, it was the catch of the day. And
many fishermen would kill that 15 incher and eat it. I *know* how
good it must have tasted, but that fish was part of the breeding
stock. The ration then was about 1 brook trout for every 10 salmon
landed. Today things have changed.

After declaring brook trout catch and release ONLY, they have come
back to the point where five pounders are not uncommon. Five
pounders! Now when you catch a fish, if you don't see the take, you
don't know whether it's a brookie or a salmon. During the fight, of
course, you can tell. The ratio now is about 50/50, unheard of 15
years ago.

Conclusion: Catch and release has brought the brook trout population
*specific* to this river back to normal. It has saved this strain of
brook trout from extinction.

As you would have it, you'd say, "Who gives a ****. Stock pellet
rainbows. Everyone'll be happy." And *that* my friend is bull****.

Dave

Gee Dave, the world manages fisheries around the concept of harvest. I
wonder how in the world they do that!!!!!

They deplete fish stocks all over the world.

Dumbass.

Wolfgang

I spent 4 years in the US Coast Guard making sure they did not, at
least in US Coastal waters.

No. You did not.

Wolfgang

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Wolfgang wrote:
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On 25 Aug 2006 08:41:51 -0700, wrote:

It really chaps my butt when so called brothers of the angle
denegrate
people who understand this, who like to eat wild fish, harvest the
bounty of nature, while claiming moral high ground when their only
using the animal to promote the latest vest fashion. Turns out the
fish
from the high seas fish farms are poison. Only wild fish is the real
McCoy. As I said years ago, when I was 'sent to the grocer': What
price
then, for wild brook trout meat?

Tim, how can we make you understand that if all the rivers and streams
in this great land were catch and kill, there would be nothing but
stocked fish in them.

To wit, The Rapid River in Maine.

It used to be catch and kill (1 brookie/day). Fifteen years ago if
you caught a 15 inch brook trout, it was the catch of the day. And
many fishermen would kill that 15 incher and eat it. I *know* how
good it must have tasted, but that fish was part of the breeding
stock. The ration then was about 1 brook trout for every 10 salmon
landed. Today things have changed.

After declaring brook trout catch and release ONLY, they have come
back to the point where five pounders are not uncommon. Five
pounders! Now when you catch a fish, if you don't see the take, you
don't know whether it's a brookie or a salmon. During the fight, of
course, you can tell. The ratio now is about 50/50, unheard of 15
years ago.

Conclusion: Catch and release has brought the brook trout population
*specific* to this river back to normal. It has saved this strain of
brook trout from extinction.

As you would have it, you'd say, "Who gives a ****. Stock pellet
rainbows. Everyone'll be happy." And *that* my friend is bull****.

Dave

Gee Dave, the world manages fisheries around the concept of harvest. I
wonder how in the world they do that!!!!!

They deplete fish stocks all over the world.

Dumbass.

Wolfgang

I spent 4 years in the US Coast Guard making sure they did not, at
least in US Coastal waters.

No. You did not.

Wolfgang

With all due respect, I was a boarding officer, E-6 Quartermaster, 25
months sea service the rest search and rescue on lake michigan. I won
top honors at the national search and rescue school on governors island
in New York. I was in the auxiliary as recently as last year (quit when
it became department of the reichstag) doing boating saftey on the
ramps on my day off. The USCG is responsible for fisheries enforcement
and I have supported that effort with a lot of my soul for nearly 30
years, so please, please do not say I did not.

Halfordian Golfer
WAGB10

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Wolfgang wrote:
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I spent 4 years in the US Coast Guard making sure they did not, at
least in US Coastal waters.

No. You did not.

Wolfgang

With all due respect, I was a boarding officer, E-6 Quartermaster, 25
months sea service the rest search and rescue on lake michigan. I won
top honors at the national search and rescue school on governors island
in New York. I was in the auxiliary as recently as last year (quit when
it became department of the reichstag) doing boating saftey on the
ramps on my day off.

WHOOOOOEEEE!, deputy Dawg!

The USCG is responsible for fisheries enforcement
and I have supported that effort with a lot of my soul for nearly 30
years, so please, please do not say I did not.

Did not what?

Do you have ANY idea at all what you said?

Dumbass.

Wolfgang
are we suddenly drowning in fish and nobody told me?

On 25 Aug 2006 12:48:06 -0700, wrote:

Dave

Gee Dave, the world manages fisheries around the concept of harvest. I
wonder how in the world they do that!!!!!

They deplete fish stocks all over the world.



Wolfgang

I spent 4 years in the US Coast Guard making sure they did not, at
least in US Coastal waters.

Ahhh, US Coastal waters. And how do you manage inland fisheries?
Catch and Release worked on the Rapid. I invite you to fish it for a
couple of days next May/June. Two days on me at Lakewood Camps, and
I'll be your guide. (http://lakewoodcamps.com/)

Once you see this river and its fish, perhaps you'll change your mind
about Catch and Kill.

Dave