PMWS pork entering food chain

Hey there....now you are calling me names. I don't really appreciate
that, but then you did and stated it. I have been Burkie
forever....ever since I was born. My father was, too. So was my
grandfather.

So ...fly your kite somewhere else. Whatever a Burk in your country
means, means nothing to me.

By the way, your insistence about "Go Veggie" is yours, not mine. I
reserve the right to disagree with you.

However, due to your persistent nature to try and intimidate me,
playing the innuendo game of name-calling, go right ahead. You won't
score any points doing that, certainly not read as a positive to those
who particpate on this group......actually makes you look a little bit
foolish, if not childish.

Burkie (and damn proud of my nick-name.....well-known and
well-respected.)

Geoff wrote:
On 6 Jan 2007 13:20:32 -0800, "Burk" wrote:

Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
is yours, not mine. I'll die and go to heaven having whatever meat I
want to eat. That's not to say, I don't disagree with your position
of choice....it's your choice. So don't make me feel threatened by
your comments, because I am not. Granted, you have your choice, I have
mine, but you try to thrust your opinions and comments on a group of
people , here, that are trying to make a living producing food for the
Public. Companies like Perdigao, Sadia, Smithfield and your retailers
must think good of you, because your insistence upon a veg diet still
requires you to patronize some of them as your source.

Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or
is that your fetal attempt to do so?

Must make you feel good.

Must make veggie's taste better to you, knowing you are trying to
destroy other people's livings.

But that's easy for you to come off on those that have made significant
investments in facilities and equipment, who try to comply with the
non-sensical EU rules in your country, then buy produce imported from
who-knows-where.

I have an attitude, but it doesn't agree with yours.

You're an arse! My advice was free, my suggestions open. Take it or
leave it. No need for your short, fat legs, to try and get on a high
horse!

I imagine the majority of farmers are hardworking decent folks, trying
to earn a buck. Unlike the bullies here, who earn a living off state
benefits, whether they work or not. A hard days work would kill the
likes of webster and co, maybe that's why they have such a chip on
their shoulders.

Get over yourself Burkie, stop living up to your name!



Burkie
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Geoff wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:39:13 -0000, "Pat Gardiner"
wrote:

Pat's Note: This report published in FWi yesterday will not surprise anyone.

However, it is effective confirmation that PMWS sick pigs are entering the
food chain in the UK with seemingly the full approval of veterinarians and
the British authorities.

In fairness it is hard to see how they could keep them out, and the openness
is to be commended, even if it does send a shiver down the spine.

(Actually, I do wonder if some recent veterinary reports are deliberately
designed to make quite sure that Maff-Defra can't just blame the RCVS and
pig industry and walk away from the gathering crisis.)

Quote

6) Septic pleurisy. Since the arrival of PMWS on most UK farms there has
been a rise in severe pleurisy lesions, which in the most severe form can
set up abscessation within the musculature of the rib cage. If restricted
to this area, trimming may be possible with only partial carcass rejection.
Where infection has spread beyond the thorax (chest) whole carcass
condemnation is likely.

I have no doubt, given the filthy conditions in farming today, that
infected food is reaching our tables. It would go some way to
explaining the surge in illness.

Go veggie.

Unquote

http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2007/0...mber-2006.html

Special Reports

You are in: Home Special Reports Animal Health
NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006

05/01/2007 12:00:00

FWi

NADIS is a network of 40 veterinary practices and six veterinary colleges
monitoring diseases of cattle, sheep and pigs in the UK.
NADIS data can highlight potential livestock disease and parasite incidences
before they peak, providing a valuable early warning for the month ahead.
NADIS disease bulletins are written specifically for farmers, to increase
awareness of prevalent conditions and promote disease prevention and
control, in order to benefit animal health and welfare. Farmers are advised
to discuss their individual farm circumstances with their veterinary
surgeon.

NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006

Whole Carcass Condemnation

Mark White BVSc DPM MRCVS



--


***************************
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you
spare yourself the sight."
- Albert Schweitzer

Check out Animal Aid's brand new one-minute video.
This powerful film, containing shocking images,
just begs to be seen by as many people as possible.
Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends
and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2






The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .

--


***************************
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you
spare yourself the sight."
- Albert Schweitzer

Check out Animal Aid's brand new one-minute video.
This powerful film, containing shocking images,
just begs to be seen by as many people as possible.
Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends
and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2






The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .

"Burkie" wrote in message
ps.com...
Hey there....now you are calling me names. I don't really appreciate
that, but then you did and stated it. I have been Burkie
forever....ever since I was born. My father was, too. So was my
grandfather.

So ...fly your kite somewhere else. Whatever a Burk in your country
means, means nothing to me.

By the way, your insistence about "Go Veggie" is yours, not mine. I
reserve the right to disagree with you.


not with pete you don't. You are dealing with someone who is either just a
troll and loves to play at winding you up, or else he is a bona fida member
of the corpse reburial society and if you disagree with his views he
reserves the right to come round and dig up your granny

Jim Webster

If this idiot digs up my granny, you will see WW3. happen very quickly,
Jim.

Jim Webster wrote:
"Burkie" wrote in message
ps.com...
Hey there....now you are calling me names. I don't really appreciate
that, but then you did and stated it. I have been Burkie
forever....ever since I was born. My father was, too. So was my
grandfather.

So ...fly your kite somewhere else. Whatever a Burk in your country
means, means nothing to me.

By the way, your insistence about "Go Veggie" is yours, not mine. I
reserve the right to disagree with you.


not with pete you don't. You are dealing with someone who is either just a
troll and loves to play at winding you up, or else he is a bona fida member
of the corpse reburial society and if you disagree with his views he
reserves the right to come round and dig up your granny

Jim Webster

On 8 Jan 2007 00:05:52 -0800, "Burkie" wrote:

If this idiot digs up my granny, you will see WW3. happen very quickly,
Jim.

Stop groveling you snotty nosed twerp. It's embarrassing.

Jim Webster wrote:
"Burkie" wrote in message
ps.com...
Hey there....now you are calling me names. I don't really appreciate
that, but then you did and stated it. I have been Burkie
forever....ever since I was born. My father was, too. So was my
grandfather.

So ...fly your kite somewhere else. Whatever a Burk in your country
means, means nothing to me.

By the way, your insistence about "Go Veggie" is yours, not mine. I
reserve the right to disagree with you.


not with pete you don't. You are dealing with someone who is either just a
troll and loves to play at winding you up, or else he is a bona fida member
of the corpse reburial society and if you disagree with his views he
reserves the right to come round and dig up your granny

Jim Webster

--


***************************
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you
spare yourself the sight."
- Albert Schweitzer

Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video.
This powerful film, containing shocking images,
just begs to be seen by as many people as possible.
Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends
and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2






The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .

"Burkie" wrote in message
ups.com...
If this idiot digs up my granny, you will see WW3. happen very quickly,
Jim.


that is the sort of idiot you are dealing with when you talk to UK animal
rights activists

Jim Webster

On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:47:21 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote:


"Burkie" wrote in message
oups.com...
If this idiot digs up my granny, you will see WW3. happen very quickly,
Jim.


that is the sort of idiot you are dealing with when you talk to UK animal
rights activists

Jim Webster


You don't talk. You shout, bully, scream, jump up and down, and drink
to excess.

On 7 Jan 2007 22:58:37 -0800, "Burkie" wrote:

Hey there....now you are calling me names. I don't really appreciate
that, but then you did and stated it. I have been Burkie
forever....ever since I was born. My father was, too. So was my
grandfather.

So ...fly your kite somewhere else. Whatever a Burk in your country
means, means nothing to me.

You said it!


By the way, your insistence about "Go Veggie" is yours, not mine.

It's free advice.

I
reserve the right to disagree with you.

You are perfectly entitled to.


However, due to your persistent nature to try and intimidate me,
playing the innuendo game of name-calling, go right ahead. You won't
score any points doing that, certainly not read as a positive to those
who particpate on this group......actually makes you look a little bit
foolish, if not childish.

Don't be a silly Billy Burkie.

Burkie (and damn proud of my nick-name.....well-known and
well-respected.)

Nothing special here!


Geoff wrote:
On 6 Jan 2007 13:20:32 -0800, "Burk" wrote:

Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
is yours, not mine. I'll die and go to heaven having whatever meat I
want to eat. That's not to say, I don't disagree with your position
of choice....it's your choice. So don't make me feel threatened by
your comments, because I am not. Granted, you have your choice, I have
mine, but you try to thrust your opinions and comments on a group of
people , here, that are trying to make a living producing food for the
Public. Companies like Perdigao, Sadia, Smithfield and your retailers
must think good of you, because your insistence upon a veg diet still
requires you to patronize some of them as your source.

Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or
is that your fetal attempt to do so?

Must make you feel good.

Must make veggie's taste better to you, knowing you are trying to
destroy other people's livings.

But that's easy for you to come off on those that have made significant
investments in facilities and equipment, who try to comply with the
non-sensical EU rules in your country, then buy produce imported from
who-knows-where.

I have an attitude, but it doesn't agree with yours.

You're an arse! My advice was free, my suggestions open. Take it or
leave it. No need for your short, fat legs, to try and get on a high
horse!

I imagine the majority of farmers are hardworking decent folks, trying
to earn a buck. Unlike the bullies here, who earn a living off state
benefits, whether they work or not. A hard days work would kill the
likes of webster and co, maybe that's why they have such a chip on
their shoulders.

Get over yourself Burkie, stop living up to your name!



Burkie
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Geoff wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:39:13 -0000, "Pat Gardiner"
wrote:

Pat's Note: This report published in FWi yesterday will not surprise anyone.

However, it is effective confirmation that PMWS sick pigs are entering the
food chain in the UK with seemingly the full approval of veterinarians and
the British authorities.

In fairness it is hard to see how they could keep them out, and the openness
is to be commended, even if it does send a shiver down the spine.

(Actually, I do wonder if some recent veterinary reports are deliberately
designed to make quite sure that Maff-Defra can't just blame the RCVS and
pig industry and walk away from the gathering crisis.)

Quote

6) Septic pleurisy. Since the arrival of PMWS on most UK farms there has
been a rise in severe pleurisy lesions, which in the most severe form can
set up abscessation within the musculature of the rib cage. If restricted
to this area, trimming may be possible with only partial carcass rejection.
Where infection has spread beyond the thorax (chest) whole carcass
condemnation is likely.

I have no doubt, given the filthy conditions in farming today, that
infected food is reaching our tables. It would go some way to
explaining the surge in illness.

Go veggie.

Unquote

http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2007/0...mber-2006.html

Special Reports

You are in: Home Special Reports Animal Health
NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006

05/01/2007 12:00:00

FWi

NADIS is a network of 40 veterinary practices and six veterinary colleges
monitoring diseases of cattle, sheep and pigs in the UK.
NADIS data can highlight potential livestock disease and parasite incidences
before they peak, providing a valuable early warning for the month ahead.
NADIS disease bulletins are written specifically for farmers, to increase
awareness of prevalent conditions and promote disease prevention and
control, in order to benefit animal health and welfare. Farmers are advised
to discuss their individual farm circumstances with their veterinary
surgeon.

NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006

Whole Carcass Condemnation

Mark White BVSc DPM MRCVS



--


***************************
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you
spare yourself the sight."
- Albert Schweitzer

Check out Animal Aid's brand new one-minute video.
This powerful film, containing shocking images,
just begs to be seen by as many people as possible.
Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends
and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2






The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .

--


***************************
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you
spare yourself the sight."
- Albert Schweitzer

Check out Animal Aid's brand new one-minute video.
This powerful film, containing shocking images,
just begs to be seen by as many people as possible.
Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends
and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2






The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .

--


***************************
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you
spare yourself the sight."
- Albert Schweitzer

Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video.
This powerful film, containing shocking images,
just begs to be seen by as many people as possible.
Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends
and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2






The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing

1.I was forced to as a child.
2.People who make soap are only after your money.
3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter.
4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else.
5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best.
6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped.
7.None of my friends wash.
8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer.
9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier.
10.I can't spare the time .