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Dave Vito wrote:
I know this has been addressed hundreds of times in this newsgroup, but with Bass season right around the corner, I have to ask: What's your favorite type of worm? What's your favorite color? Thanks Dave V You may think this strange,, but just any color that they can see in the water conditions. I have seen No Difference in the catch rate changing colors, I don't need a color to get them to strike, it's all in the presentation . Type is a non swim tail "soft", something I can get to wiggle well. The cheapest worms I can find work just fine, just make it move like a "worm", the fish eat it. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Nutri Shield insect repellent. ,TTI's StandOut Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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![]() "Rodney Long" wrote in message ... Dave Vito wrote: I know this has been addressed hundreds of times in this newsgroup, but with Bass season right around the corner, I have to ask: What's your favorite type of worm? What's your favorite color? Thanks Dave V You may think this strange,, but just any color that they can see in the water conditions. I have seen No Difference in the catch rate changing colors, I don't need a color to get them to strike, it's all in the presentation . I don't think it's strange at all. But I have to use something, so I use black. Without being able to prove anything, I believe the same thing applies to other baits and I have confidence that two colors is all I need to own of any given bait, generally a dark and a light. Besides, the more colors I'd own, the harder it would be to make a decision, a decision I'm unqualified to make anyways. Marty Inventor of nothing Type is a non swim tail "soft", something I can get to wiggle well. The cheapest worms I can find work just fine, just make it move like a "worm", the fish eat it. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Nutri Shield insect repellent. ,TTI's StandOut Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Rodney Long wrote:
Dave Vito wrote: I know this has been addressed hundreds of times in this newsgroup, but with Bass season right around the corner, I have to ask: What's your favorite type of worm? What's your favorite color? One month, just for the fun of it, I going to do a totally controlled scientific test, just to see if color makes a difference. I have the only technique that can do such a test, where two worms, with the identical action, that can be placed in front of the same fish, at the same time. the "only difference will be the color. I've already done this test with some scents (Mega Strike the winner so far) It really does not make a lot of sense, that color has that much to do with it,, I mean, in a bunch of basses brains, it tells them " we don't eat a purple worms today, instead eat blue worms only" :-) There are so many variables in fishing, especially the Mood of any particular fish at that moment in time, which could change on the next cast. Then we have presentation, two fishermen in the boat using the same lure, and color, yet one out catches the other nearly "every time" two fishermen do this. If you have a favorite worm color, you bet you will catch more fish on it than any other color,, because you fish it more :-) So the next question, which is more important color, or presentation ? No I'm not just talking about my rig, I'm talking all others with two guys using the same rig (two guys Carolina, Texas, drop shotting or even Wiggling) is one's particular presentation more important than color -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Nutri Shield insect repellent. ,TTI's StandOut Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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I've been in many a situation where a change in color made all the
difference, then went back and caught fish where there was no bite to be had. I know there could be a million reasons why this happened and wasn't really the color, but that is too much of a coincidence to overlook. Dave V -- What's your GOTO bait? "Rodney Long" wrote in message ... Rodney Long wrote: Dave Vito wrote: I know this has been addressed hundreds of times in this newsgroup, but with Bass season right around the corner, I have to ask: What's your favorite type of worm? What's your favorite color? One month, just for the fun of it, I going to do a totally controlled scientific test, just to see if color makes a difference. I have the only technique that can do such a test, where two worms, with the identical action, that can be placed in front of the same fish, at the same time. the "only difference will be the color. I've already done this test with some scents (Mega Strike the winner so far) It really does not make a lot of sense, that color has that much to do with it,, I mean, in a bunch of basses brains, it tells them " we don't eat a purple worms today, instead eat blue worms only" :-) There are so many variables in fishing, especially the Mood of any particular fish at that moment in time, which could change on the next cast. Then we have presentation, two fishermen in the boat using the same lure, and color, yet one out catches the other nearly "every time" two fishermen do this. If you have a favorite worm color, you bet you will catch more fish on it than any other color,, because you fish it more :-) So the next question, which is more important color, or presentation ? No I'm not just talking about my rig, I'm talking all others with two guys using the same rig (two guys Carolina, Texas, drop shotting or even Wiggling) is one's particular presentation more important than color -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Nutri Shield insect repellent. ,TTI's StandOut Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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![]() "Rodney Long" wrote in message SNIP One month, just for the fun of it, I going to do a totally controlled scientific test, just to see if color makes a difference. I have the only technique that can do such a test, where two worms, with the identical action, that can be placed in front of the same fish, at the same time. the "only difference will be the color. I've already done this test with some scents (Mega Strike the winner so far) ***Many times, color doesn't play a factor in a fish eating a lure or bait. Much of it depends upon the fish's mood at the time. It's happened to me far too many times when color has made a distinct difference, when walleye fishing, bass fishing and muskie fishing. I will be anchored in my favorite walleye hole, using a chartreuse jig and minnow combination, catching walleye. Then the bite stops but I can still see fish on the locator. A simple change in the color of the jighead will result in more walleyes boated. My friend Gil used to believe that color didn't make a difference, that it was entirely location and presentation that caused a fish to strike. The best example of color selectivity came while ice-fishing bluegills one day. We were using teardrop jigs and waxworms, vertical jigging in a clearwater lake. I was using a white teardrop jig/worm and Gil was using his normal favorite for the lake, a blue teardrop, the same shape and size. I was jerking fish like crazy from a hole 4 feet away from Gil while he was only occasionally getting one. He thought I was doing something that he wasn't so he watched me carefully. All I was doing was dropping the jig down and letting it suspend below a tiny fingernail sized bobber. Thinking he was overworking the jig, he too added a bobber, checking the depth against mine. Still nothing. Then he said that his waxworms must be stale or something. So I gave him some of mine. Still nothing. Then he said that I was fishing the "Spot on a Spot." So we switched holes. Still, I was catching fish and he wasn't. Finally, I had him come and drop his lure/bait combination down the hole next to mine. We could watch the bluegills charge up to his blue jig and put the brakes on, eye ball it and turn away. I'd drop mine down alongside his and the bluegill would swim up and eat it instantly! So Gil tied on a white teardrop jig and caught his limit of bluegills too. While I realize this isn't exactly a scientific study done under controlled conditions, we eliminated all the variables we could, and the only deciding factor in success that day was color. It really does not make a lot of sense, that color has that much to do with it,, I mean, in a bunch of basses brains, it tells them " we don't eat a purple worms today, instead eat blue worms only" :-) ***I don't believe that fish are capable of "independant thought" like that at all. However there are days when you walk into the kitchen and there's a bowl of bananans, apples and oranges. Somedays you'll grab the banana, other times it's the apple, other days you'll grab the orange. Do you think, "Hmmm, I'm only going to eat apples today." No, it's just what you're hungry for, your body's reacting and you grab. Now you had the choice of three different fruits, one a different shape, but two are similar in shape. The presentation's the same, why did you grab one over the other? There are so many variables in fishing, especially the Mood of any particular fish at that moment in time, which could change on the next cast. Then we have presentation, two fishermen in the boat using the same lure, and color, yet one out catches the other nearly "every time" two fishermen do this. ***Mood of the fish does play largely in the success of fishing and when the fish are in an aggressive mood, often times color won't make a bit of difference. In this instance however, if two anglers are using the same lure, same color, then there are other variables at play. One would be how the successful angler is manipulating the lure, the other would be that perhaps the unsuccessful angler isn't as adept at detecting the bite. If you have a favorite worm color, you bet you will catch more fish on it than any other color,, because you fish it more :-) ***This is true. The most successful muskie lure is a black bucktail spinner with a chrome blade. Why? Because more companies sell more black/chrome bucktails than any other lure color combined. So the next question, which is more important color, or presentation ? No I'm not just talking about my rig, I'm talking all others with two guys using the same rig (two guys Carolina, Texas, drop shotting or even Wiggling) is one's particular presentation more important than color ***Under normal circumstances, I would have to say that presentation is the more important of the two. But, if all other variables remain constant, then color is the next important. I guided two guys for smallmouth and based on my success from the day before, I had them throwing watermelon senkos, one wacky rigged, one Texas rigged. One was a T-rigged straight watermelon green, the other was the same color with the addition of red flecks and wacky rigged. The guy in the front of the boat was catching all the fish on the wacky rig. Thinking that he was getting first crack at the fish, I had he and his buddy switch positions. Then the guy in the back was still getting all the hits. I thought, "Ok, they want them wacky rigged." So I cut off the T-rig hook, and tied on an octopus hook and wacky rigged the watermelon green worm. Still the guy in the back of the boat was getting bit more. I wondered if there was that big of a difference in angler ability because I knew the tackle was identical. But I had them switch rods just to satisfy my curiosity. Immediately the guy in front, who had been fishless up to this point began catching smallies, and his buddy in back didn't! So what was the variable? It wasn't the angler's ability, they were fairly well matched there. It wasn't the tackle, because they were as identical as possible as I could build the rods. Same blank, same guide spacing, same reel and line. It wasn't the presentation, because the smallies were taking the senko as it fell on the initial cast. So what was it? I firmly believe it was simply the addition of red flecks to the watermelon green senko. As soon as I took that straight watermelon green worm off and replaced it with one with flecks, they were both catching fish! Some days it doesn't make one bit of difference, but I know on other days, it makes all the difference in the world. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
While I realize this isn't exactly a scientific study done under controlled conditions, we eliminated all the variables we could, and the only deciding factor in success that day was color. Dang,, about as close to one as you can get on Blue gill It really does not make a lot of sense, that color has that much to do with it,, I mean, in a bunch of basses brains, it tells them " we don't eat a purple worms today, instead eat blue worms only" :-) ***I don't believe that fish are capable of "independant thought" like that at all. However there are days when you walk into the kitchen and there's a bowl of bananans, apples and oranges. Somedays you'll grab the banana, other times it's the apple, other days you'll grab the orange. Do you think, "Hmmm, I'm only going to eat apples today." No, it's just what you're hungry for, your body's reacting and you grab. Now you had the choice of three different fruits, one a different shape, but two are similar in shape. The presentation's the same, why did you grab one over the other? There are so many variables in fishing, especially the Mood of any particular fish at that moment in time, which could change on the next cast. Then we have presentation, two fishermen in the boat using the same lure, and color, yet one out catches the other nearly "every time" two fishermen do this. ***Mood of the fish does play largely in the success of fishing and when the fish are in an aggressive mood, often times color won't make a bit of difference. In this instance however, if two anglers are using the same lure, same color, then there are other variables at play. One would be how the successful angler is manipulating the lure, the other would be that perhaps the unsuccessful angler isn't as adept at detecting the bite. If you have a favorite worm color, you bet you will catch more fish on it than any other color,, because you fish it more :-) ***This is true. The most successful muskie lure is a black bucktail spinner with a chrome blade. Why? Because more companies sell more black/chrome bucktails than any other lure color combined. So the next question, which is more important color, or presentation ? No I'm not just talking about my rig, I'm talking all others with two guys using the same rig (two guys Carolina, Texas, drop shotting or even Wiggling) is one's particular presentation more important than color ***Under normal circumstances, I would have to say that presentation is the more important of the two. But, if all other variables remain constant, then color is the next important. I guided two guys for smallmouth and based on my success from the day before, I had them throwing watermelon senkos, one wacky rigged, one Texas rigged. One was a T-rigged straight watermelon green, the other was the same color with the addition of red flecks and wacky rigged. The guy in the front of the boat was catching all the fish on the wacky rig. Thinking that he was getting first crack at the fish, I had he and his buddy switch positions. Then the guy in the back was still getting all the hits. I thought, "Ok, they want them wacky rigged." So I cut off the T-rig hook, and tied on an octopus hook and wacky rigged the watermelon green worm. Still the guy in the back of the boat was getting bit more. I wondered if there was that big of a difference in angler ability because I knew the tackle was identical. But I had them switch rods just to satisfy my curiosity. Immediately the guy in front, who had been fishless up to this point began catching smallies, and his buddy in back didn't! So what was the variable? It wasn't the angler's ability, they were fairly well matched there. It wasn't the tackle, because they were as identical as possible as I could build the rods. Same blank, same guide spacing, same reel and line. It wasn't the presentation, because the smallies were taking the senko as it fell on the initial cast. So what was it? I firmly believe it was simply the addition of red flecks to the watermelon green senko. As soon as I took that straight watermelon green worm off and replaced it with one with flecks, they were both catching fish! Some days it doesn't make one bit of difference, but I know on other days, it makes all the difference in the world. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread, Nutri Shield insect repellent. ,TTI's StandOut Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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