Watergate revisited

"jeff" wrote in message
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hmmm... i reckon i qualify as a liberal (whatever that label means). i
also must admit i've been hypocritical on any number of matters (frankly,
i think every parent confronts his own hypocrisy on a regular basis), so
i'm fairly called a hypocrite too.

however, as a hypocritical liberal, i thought the whole scooterlibby
imbroglio a fascinating and stupid undertaking, typical of prosecutions
designed to extort incriminating statements and evidence about other
matters and other "targets". but, it only works when presidential pardons
aren't available and probable. this whole thing, like the clinton
impeachment, has been a horrible waste of resources and reveals the worst
edge of partisan politics. pursuing perjury charges against some little
nothing of a guy like libby while allowing his superiors to get away with
the big lies that proximately caused the death of thousands of innocent
men, women, and children is kafka-esque. we are all hypocrites.

perjury renders a justice system impotent if not challenged. still, most
courts and prosecutors have developed methods of dealing with liars short
of perjury prosecutions. i guess i have a thick skin about courthouse
liars because i am convinced that only the church (temple, mosque, etc.)
holds more liars and hypocrites than the courthouse. in more than 30 years
of experience in the eastern nc court system, i am aware of less than a
handful of perjury indictments. if we prosecuted all of the perjury
occuring before grand juries and in trials...or even a healthy minor
portion of the provable perjury...we'd never have time to prosecute
anything else.

In the course of these eternally fascinating political discussions I
sometimes indulge myself in fantasy about a criminal proceeding in an
American courtroom, during the course of which not a single instance of
perjury occurs. GodDAMN, I crack me up!

justice will be meted out best when obama is elected. g

Sadly prophetic words, though not in the sense you intended, I fear.

Wolfgang

On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 18:36:17 -0400, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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lasts until 2009 so that Bush can pardon him....

Oh? Bush will be serving a third term? So, you've heard something about
his forthcoming completion of the task of obliterating the U. S.
constitution that the rest of us are not yet privy to?

Assuming Bush serves his entire term, and there's no reason at this time to
assume he won't, Bush will serve as President until Jan 20, 2009 or so.
Technically David can get his wish without Bush obliteraing the US
Constitution.


Ta da! We have a winner in the balcony, Doctor. If only the ****
weasel whore monger would use his brain for something besides sowing
hate. You might have to explain it better to him, Wayne. Good luck.
But if you correct him, you can count on being called a nasty name or
two. It is how he operates. Ask anyone on roff.

Davie

On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 18:05:51 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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lasts until 2009 so that Bush can pardon him....

Oh? Bush will be serving a third term? So, you've heard something about
his forthcoming completion of the task of obliterating the U. S.
constitution that the rest of us are not yet privy to?

Assuming Bush serves his entire term, and there's no reason at this time
to assume he won't, Bush will serve as President until Jan 20, 2009 or so.
Technically David can get his wish without Bush obliteraing the US
Constitution.

Spoilsport.

Wolfgang


Idiot whore monger.

Dave

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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On 3 Jul 2007 21:45:30 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

there's a lot to be desired in Bush.

Of *course* there is lots to be desired in Bush, but given the choices
(Gore and Kerry), he was the ONLY choice I had.

Anyone eager to confess that he or she still fails to understand WHY davie
hates Bush so vehemently?

Wolfgang
come on......anyone?

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 18:05:51 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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lasts until 2009 so that Bush can pardon him....

Oh? Bush will be serving a third term? So, you've heard something
about
his forthcoming completion of the task of obliterating the U. S.
constitution that the rest of us are not yet privy to?

Assuming Bush serves his entire term, and there's no reason at this time
to assume he won't, Bush will serve as President until Jan 20, 2009 or
so.
Technically David can get his wish without Bush obliteraing the US
Constitution.

Spoilsport.

Wolfgang


Idiot whore monger.

Dumbass.

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:40:24 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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...I hope
the hell that Libby's appeal lasts until 2009 so that Bush can pardon
him....

Oh? Bush will be serving a third term? So, you've heard something about
his forthcoming completion of the task of obliterating the U. S.
constitution that the rest of us are not yet privy to?

Correct me if I'm wrong, Whore Monger, but doesn't Bush's term go
until 2008? Yeah, I thought it did too. And doesn't he leave office
the very DAY that his replacement is sworn in? Check and see when
that is, and get back to me.


Wolfgang
who wishes he could.....but he cannot.....be the least bit perplexed that
so
many here still take this hate-consumed illiterate piece of ****
seriously.

Moronic whore monger.

Dave, who still cannot believe the whore monger has friends to fish
with that are not consumed by his hate.

Idiot.

Wolfgang

"jeff" wrote in message
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justice will be meted out best when obama is elected. g


Sadly prophetic words, though not in the sense you intended, I fear.

Wolfgang

ancipital my good man...ancipital. and i intended every meaning...g

Of course. I should have known.

good of you to notice.

Hey, I growed up in Murrica.

Wolfgang

On Jul 3, 8:18 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

Ta da! We have a winner in the balcony, Doctor. If only the ****
weasel whore monger would use his brain for something besides sowing
hate. You might have to explain it better to him, Wayne. Good luck.
But if you correct him, you can count on being called a nasty name or
two. It is how he operates. Ask anyone on roff.

Last I saw, I was part of "anyone" on Roff. I think Wolfgang and I
might have disagreed
before but we seem none the worse for the wear. Actually, he makes a
pretty good friend
and fishing companion. Which is the first opinion I've thrown into
this thread.

Seems to me you came out swinging with the insults too, before
Wolfgang chimed in.

I fail to understand why a conversation cannot be had discussing the
cons, and well you might call them pros, of the current
administration
without the former being dragged into it. History goes far beyond
Clinton and he's been out of office almost seven years. Whatever
faults he had as a person
or as a leader is irrelevant to the issue at hand. And frankly it
smacks as childish to use Clinton's practices as justification for
subsequent misbehavior when part of the Bush platform was to avoid
those ethical and moral lapses.

On Jul 3, 6:40 pm, Scott Seidman wrote:


Too late


The true Bush legacy is probably going to be the nominations of
conservative judges and a potential conservative bloc on the supreme
court. But seems to me, the administration is losing more than its
winning in the judicial process which proves there is hope yet.

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:34:55 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:



But how was Conan the Librarian hypocritical?

I've been reading his posts here for years and never noticed. I see
he asked for quotes to prove the hypocrisy. I'd like to see them,
too.
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