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Old October 31st, 2007, 03:57 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John

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Old October 31st, 2007, 07:02 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John


Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!

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Old October 31st, 2007, 10:50 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:02:19 -0600, ray wrote:

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John


Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!


The sturgeon has always been in that part of the Snake as well as the
Columbia and just about all of the west coast rivers. The late George
Gerhke once fished for them in Hells Canyon. So, it IS part of their
native habitat. They continue to fish for them today. They coexist
with the salmon and trout, and have never been a problem. They may
get as far as the Henrys Fork, but they have no way of getting past
the dam.


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Old November 1st, 2007, 04:14 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
ray
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Default White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:50:46 -0400, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:02:19 -0600, ray wrote:

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John


Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!


The sturgeon has always been in that part of the Snake as well as the
Columbia and just about all of the west coast rivers. The late George


We're talking about the 'upper Snake river' here - near Idaho Falls. I was
not aware they were ever that far upstream - Shoshone Falls would be a
major impediment.

Gerhke once fished for them in Hells Canyon. So, it IS part of their
native habitat. They continue to fish for them today. They coexist
with the salmon and trout, and have never been a problem. They may
get as far as the Henrys Fork, but they have no way of getting past
the dam.


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Old November 1st, 2007, 12:12 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:14:37 -0600, ray wrote:

We're talking about the 'upper Snake river' here - near Idaho Falls. I was
not aware they were ever that far upstream - Shoshone Falls would be a
major impediment.


Bottom line: They have coexisted in trout/salmon waters for
centuries. They will NOT impact trout fishing.


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Old November 1st, 2007, 02:36 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...

On Nov 1, 6:12 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:14:37 -0600, ray wrote:
We're talking about the 'upper Snake river' here - near Idaho Falls. I was
not aware they were ever that far upstream - Shoshone Falls would be a
major impediment.


Bottom line: They have coexisted in trout/salmon waters for
centuries. They will NOT impact trout fishing.


But the question still remains will they move up into the areas where
fishing is popular. We are talking about 20-30 miles of traveling plus
the water will drop in temperature a bit upstream. I doubt I would
ever land one on a fly, but can imagine maybe a smaller one going
after a streamer. They are known to feed on smaller fish.

John


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Old November 1st, 2007, 02:35 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John


Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!


The largest white sturgeon ever caught was from the Snake river. They do
not affect the trout population from what I see. The Pit River in
California may still have sturgeon. And the Kootanei river has them from
Montana to Kootanai lake. All good trout areas.


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Old November 5th, 2007, 01:36 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...

In article ,
"Calif Bill" wrote:

The largest white sturgeon ever caught was from the Snake river. They do
not affect the trout population from what I see. The Pit River in
California may still have sturgeon. And the Kootanei river has them from
Montana to Kootanai lake. All good trout areas.


I seriously doubt the Pit RIver has Sturgeon, it very possibly used to
have sturgeon since it empties into Lake Shasta, and before Lake shasta
would have emptied into the Sacramento river, and the Sacramento River
has a ton of sturgeon. The lower sac is also one of the best trout
fisheries in the US, given all the food from the anadronymous fish
(salmon, shad, sturgeon, steelhead, striper) as well as the shasta dam
having a special device that release cold water from the bottom of lake
shasta so the river is constantly cool even tho Redding gets up to 115
degrees.
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Old November 6th, 2007, 10:01 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...


"Julie" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Calif Bill" wrote:

The largest white sturgeon ever caught was from the Snake river. They do
not affect the trout population from what I see. The Pit River in
California may still have sturgeon. And the Kootanei river has them from
Montana to Kootanai lake. All good trout areas.


I seriously doubt the Pit RIver has Sturgeon, it very possibly used to
have sturgeon since it empties into Lake Shasta, and before Lake shasta
would have emptied into the Sacramento river, and the Sacramento River
has a ton of sturgeon. The lower sac is also one of the best trout
fisheries in the US, given all the food from the anadronymous fish
(salmon, shad, sturgeon, steelhead, striper) as well as the shasta dam
having a special device that release cold water from the bottom of lake
shasta so the river is constantly cool even tho Redding gets up to 115
degrees.


When I was a kid, was neat to look from the top of Shasta Dam and see the
sturgeon that would swim near the surface there. The hatchery in the area
had a large White Sturgeon on display for years that they got from a shallow
pool on the Pit. There may still be spawners up in Shasta.


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Old November 1st, 2007, 02:33 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Oct 31, 1:02 pm, ray wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:
Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?


http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108


I'm just curious


John


Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!


I was thinking that as well. The other thought was wont it be to cold
this far up north?

John

 




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