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Old October 31st, 2003, 01:11 AM
rw
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haresear wrote:

My Question: Are loop connectors at the end of your fly line an
advantage?


They suck on light tackle. You have this gross, doubled-over, inch-long
glob of mono -- plus the knots, which make the leader at least FOUR
times the density at spots. It's not the right setup for stealthy trout
fishing, and certainly not for dry-fly fishing.

Some people complain about poor casting with loop-to-loop connections
due to "hinging," or some other supposed effect, but I don't believe it.
I just think they suck, period. :-)

What, please tell me, is the pressing need to change leaders easily? How
many times, per fishing day, do you change leaders? If it even comes
close to 1 (from below), you're doing something wrong. And, when you do
change leaders, what is so hard about tying a three-turn blood knot in
thick mono?

Oh, BTW, welcome to ROFF, haresear!

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Old October 31st, 2003, 01:14 AM
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"rw" wrote in message
m...
What, please tell me, is the pressing need to change leaders easily?


I use my 3 wt. and 4 wt. outfits for both trout and bluegills. I switch
leaders for the two applications. I've never had problems with the braided
loops I use. Many tools, many applications...



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Old October 31st, 2003, 01:16 AM
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"rw" wrote in message
m...

....What, please tell me, is the pressing need to change leaders easily?

How
many times, per fishing day, do you change leaders?....


How many times, for that matter do you change leaders in a SEASON?! Unless
one goes over to the dark side (not necessarily an unmitigated evil, I'll
grant) and starts nymphing or swinging wets or streamers, one or two leader
changes per year should suffice......IF you fish eight to twelve hours a day
for a hundred fifty days or so.

Leader links.....for every situation, every day.

Gospel.

Wolfgang


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Old October 31st, 2003, 04:43 PM
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message ...

Leader links.....for every situation, every day.


While tying flies for my recent trip to the San Juan I
came across a pack of leader links I had added to a
Cabela's order on a whim. I rigged one up on the rod
I was using, and really loved it. Sooo smooth coming
through the tip-top that I didn't have to worry at all
about bringing in the end of the 10' leader into the
guides with an 18" bow on the end of 6x. The fish would
do their one last run and that leader link would glide
through the guides smooth as silk...

Jon.
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Old October 31st, 2003, 05:01 PM
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"Jonathan Cook" wrote in message
m...
"Wolfgang" wrote in message

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Leader links.....for every situation, every day.


While tying flies for my recent trip to the San Juan I
came across a pack of leader links I had added to a
Cabela's order on a whim. I rigged one up on the rod
I was using, and really loved it. Sooo smooth coming
through the tip-top that I didn't have to worry at all
about bringing in the end of the 10' leader into the
guides with an 18" bow on the end of 6x. The fish would
do their one last run and that leader link would glide
through the guides smooth as silk...

Jon.


The closest thing to a problem I've had with them is that the knots in
the thicker sections of a knotted leader will not pass through the
link, thus making it necessary to cut the stopper knot on the butt in
order to change leaders. As I change leaders infrequently and
snipping and retying the end knot is insignificant, it isn't much
trouble.....considerably less bothersome than most other methods.

Wolfgang


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Old October 31st, 2003, 05:03 PM
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Jonathan Cook wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote:

Leader links.....for every situation, every day.


... really loved it. ...


Leader links are tacky little doodads for those who are
too lazy or incompetent to tie good knots.

You wouldn't hang a velvet Elvis in the Louvre, why put
tacky **** on your flyline ?

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Old October 31st, 2003, 05:12 PM
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Jonathan Cook wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote:

Leader links.....for every situation, every day.


... really loved it. ...


Leader links are tacky little doodads for those who are
too lazy or incompetent to tie good knots.

You wouldn't hang a velvet Elvis in the Louvre, why put
tacky **** on your flyline ?


http://www.despair.com/elitism.html
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Old October 31st, 2003, 05:14 PM
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:12:57 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote:


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Jonathan Cook wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote:

Leader links.....for every situation, every day.

... really loved it. ...


Leader links are tacky little doodads for those who are
too lazy or incompetent to tie good knots.

You wouldn't hang a velvet Elvis in the Louvre, why put
tacky **** on your flyline ?


In 40's case, there's already a tacky **** holding the fly rod. g
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Charlie...
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Old October 31st, 2003, 05:38 PM
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Charlie Choc wrote:

In 40's case, there's already a tacky **** holding the fly rod. g


**** you, Choc.

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Old October 31st, 2003, 06:06 PM
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Charlie,
The best laugh I have had all week!
Thanks
Ernie

"Charlie Choc" wrote
In 40's case, there's already a tacky **** holding the fly rod. g
Charlie...



 




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