Fast vs Slow Rods

I understand that many folks really like the slow rods, hence the
comments about glass and boo. I, on the other hand, like a really
fast rod (for 4wt or heavier). I use an ADG Titan 8' 4wt. Its my
favorite rod and Roger Olsen declared it "dangerous." This after
watching him blast multiple casts across to the far bank at the Cabin
Run at Penns (and yes, it is an 8 foot 4wt)!
Question, what other brand/model fly rods are on the market that you
would consider really fast? Someone handed me their "fast" T&T that
felt slow as molasses. Looking at the market for Xmas and want to
narrow down the field (though I may just go and get ADG).
Frank Reid

On 20 Nov, 18:00, Frank Reid wrote:
I understand that many folks really like the slow rods, hence the
comments about glass and boo. I, on the other hand, like a really
fast rod (for 4wt or heavier). I use an ADG Titan 8' 4wt. Its my
favorite rod and Roger Olsen declared it "dangerous." This after
watching him blast multiple casts across to the far bank at the Cabin
Run at Penns (and yes, it is an 8 foot 4wt)!
Question, what other brand/model fly rods are on the market that you
would consider really fast? Someone handed me their "fast" T&T that
felt slow as molasses. Looking at the market for Xmas and want to
narrow down the field (though I may just go and get ADG).
Frank Reid

If you want a really fast rod then go for the TCR ( Sage). I have only
cast the #5 and #7 weights, and these are probably the fastest
production rods I have handled. They are not only fast action, but
also extremely fast recovery rods, and when matched with the right
line are really "cannons". I don´t think they are really ideal fishing
rods, but they are great for casting.

TL
MC

http://www.sexyloops.com/tackle/sagetcr5.shtml

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/prorevw/sagetcr.html

http://www.sageflyfish.com/default.asp?p=103

http://hipwader.com/2003/sage-tcr-fly-rod-review

TL
MC

Had never heard of an ADG before, so I went and had a look. I have no
idea what the rods are like, ( although I am sure you like them, or
you would not say so), but they sure are good with bull****!

http://www.adgfish.com/

TL
MC

On Nov 20, 11:22 am, Mike wrote:
Had never heard of an ADG before, so I went and had a look. I have no
idea what the rods are like, ( although I am sure you like them, or
you would not say so), but they sure are good with bull****!

http://www.adgfish.com/

The thing is a true cannon with great sensitivity (it cries at
weddings). Absolutely love it. I bought it at the Ft Washington PA
fly show. I was testing a bunch of rods (Sage, T&T, Powell...) and
after I cast the ADG, I went directly back to the booth and bought
it. Haven't looked back.
Frank Reid

On Nov 20, 12:00 pm, Frank Reid wrote:
I understand that many folks really like the slow rods, hence the
comments about glass and boo. I, on the other hand, like a really
fast rod (for 4wt or heavier). I use an ADG Titan 8' 4wt. Its my
favorite rod and Roger Olsen declared it "dangerous." This after
watching him blast multiple casts across to the far bank at the Cabin
Run at Penns (and yes, it is an 8 foot 4wt)!

Roger Ohlund. I remember watching that. Fish were not being
cooperative that afternoon, so we all lolled on the river bank,
occasionally taking fruitless turns at displaying all manner of flies
to uncooperative trout.

Until Roger stood up and began casting. It was like watching a freak
show. Of course, a freak show performed by a six foot three chiseled
Odin. Roger threw perfectly formed loops with- easily- one hundred
feet of line out. I felt ashamed of my own casting skills after
watching that display. His rod, Frank's rod, didn't seem to matter.

I think that was the day that he shamed us all into eating salad-
SALAD- with our steak at clave central. Salad at a clave. Who knew?

Bill

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
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I understand that many folks really like the slow rods, hence the
comments about glass and boo. I, on the other hand, like a really
fast rod (for 4wt or heavier). I use an ADG Titan 8' 4wt. Its my
favorite rod and Roger Olsen declared it "dangerous." This after
watching him blast multiple casts across to the far bank at the Cabin
Run at Penns (and yes, it is an 8 foot 4wt)!
Question, what other brand/model fly rods are on the market that you
would consider really fast? Someone handed me their "fast" T&T that
felt slow as molasses. Looking at the market for Xmas and want to
narrow down the field (though I may just go and get ADG).
Frank Reid

Winston 9' 5 wt. LTX is the fastest rode I have. I'm not sure if they offer
that rod anymore?

JT

On 20 Nov, 18:43, Frank Reid wrote:
On Nov 20, 11:22 am, Mike wrote:

Had never heard of an ADG before, so I went and had a look. I have no
idea what the rods are like, ( although I am sure you like them, or
you would not say so), but they sure are good with bull****!

http://www.adgfish.com/

The thing is a true cannon with great sensitivity (it cries at
weddings). Absolutely love it. I bought it at the Ft Washington PA
fly show. I was testing a bunch of rods (Sage, T&T, Powell...) and
after I cast the ADG, I went directly back to the booth and bought
it. Haven't looked back.
Frank Reid

Not sold here as far as I can discover. There are so many makes now
it is quite impossible to keep up with them all, even the relatively
well known ones. Most pupils nowadays have cheap to medium priced
models of varying rods, only rarely that somebody turns up for
beginner lessons with a top-of-the-line rod.

Still interesting to cast them all.

Preferences also depend to a very great extent on what one is used to,
and can get away with. Last week I gave a guy some lessons, and he
turned up with a very soft rod. He wanted to double haul for distance
while sea trout fishing in the sea. Such a rod is quite useless for
that.

He used a couple of my rods for the lessons, and was immediately
enthusiastic. For some things you really need a fast rod.

One thing that would interest me, and given that I know nothing about
the specific characteristics of your rod, is do you have any problems
with just "pricking" fish, or fish coming off once hooked? This seems
to be a recurring problem for a lot of people who use fast rods. one
can of course slow the rod down by overlining it, but this is hardly
the best solution. How have you altered your tactics to suit the fast
rod you now use? ( Assuming you used a slower one before).

TL
MC

Frank Reid wrote:
I understand that many folks really like the slow rods, hence the
comments about glass and boo. I, on the other hand, like a really
fast rod (for 4wt or heavier). I use an ADG Titan 8' 4wt. Its my
favorite rod and Roger Olsen declared it "dangerous." This after
watching him blast multiple casts across to the far bank at the Cabin
Run at Penns (and yes, it is an 8 foot 4wt)!
Question, what other brand/model fly rods are on the market that you
would consider really fast? Someone handed me their "fast" T&T that
felt slow as molasses. Looking at the market for Xmas and want to
narrow down the field (though I may just go and get ADG).

I like a slow action, it suits my casting style, but there are
times when only a fast action rod will do. The fastest rods I
own are a Sage RPL 9' 5wt and a custom Muskie rod that's a 9'
9wt. The Sage is my go to rod in the wind, a slow action rod
is next to useless for casting hoppers into a wind, and the
muskie rod I use to toss heavy hunks of wet bunny fur which
is likewise uncastable with a slow rod.

As for what's on the market today in the "fast" category, the
fastest I've ever cast was the Sage TCR 9wt. I considered it
when I was in the market for a Muskie rod but I got the custom
rod for about half the price of the Sage.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Frank Reid wrote:
I understand that many folks really like the slow rods, hence the
comments about glass and boo. I, on the other hand, like a really
fast rod (for 4wt or heavier). I use an ADG Titan 8' 4wt. Its my
favorite rod and Roger Olsen declared it "dangerous." This after
watching him blast multiple casts across to the far bank at the Cabin
Run at Penns (and yes, it is an 8 foot 4wt)!
Question, what other brand/model fly rods are on the market that you
would consider really fast? Someone handed me their "fast" T&T that
felt slow as molasses. Looking at the market for Xmas and want to
narrow down the field (though I may just go and get ADG).
Frank Reid

Powell came out with a rod to compete with Sage's TCR. It's called Edge.
I've cast a 5wt and it was a "fast" rod. Not sure what happened to the
line, but it's on sale at Sierra Trading Post now.

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/9...4-Piece-9.html

Temple Fork Outfitters have come out with a new, "fast" rod, called
Axiom. Haven't tried one, but heard good reviews so far. I owned a Scott
S3 5wt, which I thought was a bit too fast for a 5wt.....and I like fast
rods. Winston has come out with a rod to compete in the "fast" fly rod
market. Boron MX is what I think it's called. I know there are more
"fast" rods out there, but these are the ones that come to mind right now.

brians