Scouts fly tying classes - Chosing the pattern

On Nov 29, 8:30 am, Mike wrote:
On 29 Nov, 14:21, "Wolfgang" wrote:

"Personally," "I" "think" "Wittgenstein" "had" "the" "right" "idea."

"You" "don't" "learn."

"Moron"

"Wolfgang"

Not everybody is a rule follower, philosophical or otherwise, and the
logic of language is entirely dependent on the interpretation, not on
the language itself, or on the meaning which someone may have wished
to convey.

TL
MC

You have all given me a bunch of things to consider.
I was solid on the need to start on a bigger hook. I think the 8/0 is
just way too big. but I will be starting the scouts on something like
a size 2. I am glad the mention of video came up... thats a good idea.
I have some basics on DVD I will use that to get things moving. I will
also do a demostration before starting classes. This will be an
introduction to the tools, materials and fly types.
Its been my experience that putting the tools in the hand of the
student before you start tying instantly loses them. With kids its
probably amplified.
Many people with tools in their hand first will just start right in
and not watch the step you are trying to teach, or sometimes even hear
what you are doing.
I find my self saying something like.... tie the biots in like this,
and right here you will need to trim this piece. I look to the student
and they are trying to move way ahead, and muscle through the fly...
student frustration ensues. no one wants that.

I have been looking over the flies at the shop and in my books, and
reading all the posts. Perhaps I will stick with the bugger as a
second fly in the lesson and start off with a peacock herl nymph like
the zug or some similar 2 or 3 material fly. I wish I could find the
name of the pattern now, but I watched an older gentleman on youtube
tie a nice looking pattern made with just peacock herl and I think a
bucktail wing.
K.I.S.S. I guess

I am hoping I will have an hour with the troops initially and set up
tying instruction with just a few kids at a time after the
demonstration and video. I like teaching to small groups or one
student at a time if I can.

Thanks again everyone, when I get home I will print out this thread
and investigate all the links.

Lloyd M
http://www.mainetackle.com