waterboarding

On Dec 29, 5:38 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:24:29 -0800, rw

wrote:
It's torture. Plain and simple.

I am so disgusted with our government.

Put it this way:

If waterboarding would save the life of your wife, children, and
boyfriend, would you be in favor of it? Yeah, me too.

Torture is pain. There is no pain in waterboarding. And it lasts
only 25 seconds. If it saves lives, waterboard away.

Nice troll, btw. d;o)

LaCourse

It was our ideal not our land or material wealth that made us a great
nation. Review the history or the 15 and 16 century. Royalty ran
rampant over the rights of the common man. People were thrown and
left in jail with no reason. Confessions obtained under torture were
valid.
The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were published
widely and studied by scholars and statement. Some indivulas had
written about the rights of man, but no groups of men ever risk their
all in open armed defiance.
It was the expression of ideals that made us great.
Are you willing to discard those ideal just because of a few rag
heads.
Read the bill of rights and see how well they protected us ( if you
just apply it to a few you apply it to all of us).
When we abandon our ideals we become a bunch of gangsters just like
the people were fighting. Battles of ideals are always fought best
from the moral high ground.
Torture has gone on in wars before; ever hear the rumors of the VC
that flew out of the Hueys into the Tonkin gulf.
Torture gets you answers but it usually get you the truth. With just
the equipment carried by the average fly-fisherman I'll bet you could
be made to confess to giving MC a blow job and enjoying it so much
that you want to do it again.

"BJ Conner" wrote in message
Torture gets you answers but it usually get you the truth. With just
the equipment carried by the average fly-fisherman I'll bet you could
be made to confess to giving MC a blow job and enjoying it so much
that you want to do it again.

You made a statement and disproved your own premise in only two sentences.
Beautifully done.

Joe F.

"rb608" wrote in message
news:S7zdj.544$yv5.147@trndny07...
"BJ Conner" wrote in message
Torture gets you answers but it usually get you the truth. With just
the equipment carried by the average fly-fisherman I'll bet you could
be made to confess to giving MC a blow job and enjoying it so much
that you want to do it again.

You made a statement and disproved your own premise in only two sentences.
Beautifully done.

Joe F.

I couldn't make heads nor tails of what BC wrote. My hat is off to you sir!

Op

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:44:03 -0500, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:

I couldn't make heads nor tails of what BC wrote.

That's because he is drunk --- again.

On Dec 29, 2:45*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:44:03 -0500, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen"

wrote:
I couldn't make heads nor tails of what BC wrote.

That's because he is drunk *--- again.

But tomorrow I'll be sober, you will still be stupid and ugly.

Somewhere I think waterboarding fits into this somewhere in what is
written below....

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Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally
murdered that day, in downtown office buildings in ?xml:namespace
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http://www.njflyfishing.com/vBulletin/ /st1:City
w:st=]Manhattan/st1:City , and across the Potomac from our nation's
capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania???

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible,
burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when
an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?... Well, I
don't. I don't care at all .

I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for
incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start
caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in
Saudi Arabia

I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking
off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed
throat.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in
st1:country-region w:st="on"ST1lace
w:st="on"Iraq/ST1lace/st1:country-region come out and fight like
men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of
nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide
bombs.
I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First
Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead
of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up
an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care .

When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have
been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest
assured: I don't care .

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not
to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank:
I don't care.

When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat,
and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is
complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely
believe in your heart of hearts: I don't care .

And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran"
and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and-you guessed it I
don't care!!

If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail
friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the pe ople responsible for this
ridiculous behavior!

If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you
choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities
committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great Country! And may I
add:

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a
difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem." --
Ronald Reagan

I have another quote that I would like to add AND.......I hope you
forward all this.

"If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a
nation gone under." Also by.. Ronald Reagan

One last thought for the day:

In case we find ourselves Starting to believe all the Anti-American
sentiment and negativity, we should remember Prime Minister Tony
Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his
Parliament members why he believes so much in America , he said: "A
simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want
in... And how many want out."

Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1. Jesus Christ
2. The American G. I.

One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET BOTH OF THEM.
AMENfficeffice\" /O/O

F/T AND I APPROVE OF THIS MESSAGE!!


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On 29-Dec-2007, Fishin Technician
wrote:

Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1. Jesus Christ
2. The American G. I.

One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

Let me be perfectly clear about this:

Jesus s Christ - if you believe all that bull ****
Did not die for me!

And the Ameriacn soldier does not fight for the American people or for me in
Iraq and Afghnistan
What the **** do I care about Iraq and Afghanistan but you are too stupid
and duped by Patriotism to relaize that they are fighting for the
almightydollar
Thats it - Thats all there is
The Almighty dollar.

To make Bush, Cheney, Rove, Quail et al - even wealthier
If you do not see this you are a blind fool!

Fred

"Fishin Technician" wrote in
message ...

Somewhere I think waterboarding fits into this somewhere in what is
written below....

snipped yet another iteration of mentally deficient drivel

Well, you're wrong......again.

Imbecile.

Wolfgang
god, i love these threads!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:35:25 -0800 (PST), BJConner
wrote:

But tomorrow I'll be sober, you will still be stupid and ugly.

You forgot rich, well hung, and a great fisherman.

d;o)

Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:35:25 -0800 (PST), BJConner
wrote:


But tomorrow I'll be sober, you will still be stupid and ugly.


You forgot rich, well hung, and a great fisherman.

d;o)

.... with very bad feet.

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