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Old December 30th, 2007, 02:55 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Dave LaCourse
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:28:34 -0500, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:

Are we assuming that everyone who is waterboarded survives?

If you were to know that you would not survive the torture, would you still
choose waterboarding?


There is no record of anyone dying from waterboarding. And, pray
tell, how the hell are you going to know whether you are going to live
or die during *real* torture. No one in the hell holes of Viet Nam
knew wether they were going to die, and they fought to survive.

Davie


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Old December 30th, 2007, 04:41 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Opus--Mark H. Bowen
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:28:34 -0500, "Opus--Mark H. Bowen"
wrote:

Are we assuming that everyone who is waterboarded survives?

If you were to know that you would not survive the torture, would you
still
choose waterboarding?


There is no record of anyone dying from waterboarding.


Wrong again! You really should learn to do some basic research before you
make outrageous claims.

And, pray
tell, how the hell are you going to know whether you are going to live
or die during *real* torture.


What does knowing whether one is or is not going to survive torture have to
do with the question I asked Allen?

It was a very direct and specific question pertaining to the *real* torture
known as waterboarding and survivability was not assumed?

I know it's really more than anyone should ask of you, but attempt a
coherent thought once in a while.

The question to Allen was whether he'd rather die by waterboarding, or by
having his head severed from his shoulders, not whether he knew if he would
survive being tortured. People have actually died during waterboarding,
whether you want to believe it is irrelavant.

No one in the hell holes of Viet Nam
knew wether they were going to die, and they fought to survive.


And?

Davie




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Old January 2nd, 2008, 05:29 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Wolfgang
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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...No one in the hell holes of Viet Nam
knew wether they were going to die, and they fought to survive.


Even the Americans?

Wolfgang
to whom, admittedly, it seems plausible enough.


 




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