waterboarding

so what...so is catchin' fish (if your the fish)..

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On Dec 28 2007, 8:24*pm, rw wrote:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=448717

It's torture. Plain and simple.

I am so disgusted with our government.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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...No one in the hell holes of Viet Nam
knew wether they were going to die, and they fought to survive.

Even the Americans?

Wolfgang
to whom, admittedly, it seems plausible enough.

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:36:40 -0500, JR wrote:

For the most part, that's true. But the thing is, we *are* no
better than those we call our enemies and we never have been.
The myth of some inherent ethical or moral superiority adhering
to Americans because they're American is just that: a myth.
Which is exactly *why* the guiding principles of the
Constitution--and our ability (so far) to submit to them--are so
important.

The fact that so many are so ready and willing to find excuses
for throwing out them the moment the going gets rough only
underscores, to my mind, just *how* important it is to keep and
protect them at all cost--rather than rely on knee-jerk hubris
about our own personal specialness.

John, our country has a history of mis-use of the Constitution.

Slavery being the most outlandish.

Treatment of native Americans

Roosevelt's internment of Japanese Americans.

Robert Kennedy wire tapping Americans.

I am sure that torture was used against the Germans and Japanese
prisoners in WWII

Waterboarding, if it obtains information that saves lives, is not only
ok, it is imperative if we are to win this war (not Iraq or
Afghanistan). If the information is there we HAVE to obtain it, or
lose many lives.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS...ml#cnnSTCVideo

I know, I know, it is Newt and none of you liberals like Newt, but
listen with an open heart and mind. I hope what he says does not
happen, but I am deathly afraid it will.

Hm......

We've done it before (and there's a LOT of examples you missed) so we MUST
do it again.

Yeah, that's a powerful argument.

Dave
EOT for me.

Good.

Idiot.

Wolfgang

"Fishin Technician" wrote in
message ...

Somewhere I think waterboarding fits into this somewhere in what is
written below....

snipped yet another iteration of mentally deficient drivel

Well, you're wrong......again.

Imbecile.

Wolfgang
god, i love these threads!

"rw" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

Once again you reinforce what I wrote. You and LaCourse have become
pariahs and a laughing stock on this newsgroup. Richly deserved I
might add.

LaCourse and Fortenberry has a curious and telling thing in common.
They're prone to insult someone (me, for example) as being "gay" or
"effeminate."

Anyone who is honest and who knows me personally, and there are several in
ROFF who do, knows that I'm neither gay nor effeminate. My two daughters,
my wife, and my girlfriend would also back that up.

But I don't have to defend myself from the likes of those two. LaCourse
and Fortenberry have to defend themselves for their gratuitous,
homophobic, insulting behavior. It might be caused by doubts about their
own masculinity, or it might be caused by pure pigheaded meanness. Or
both.



Wolfgang

"Mike" wrote in message
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On Dec 31, 2:14 am, rw wrote:

...there is no point in even taking any notice of it.

And yet........

Wolfgang

"rw" wrote in message
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The only effective way to deal with these clowns is to laugh at them.



Wolfgang

"Mike" wrote in message
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On Dec 31, 5:08 am, rw wrote:
Mike wrote:

That is probably correct, for a while I had a great deal on my plate.

No one here really cares what's on your plate.



Indeed, and that was one of my basic mistakes, along with assuming
that anglers on an angling board would be very interested in angling,
and friendly towards each other as a result of their common interest.

If none of this can be taken seriously, or has any bearing on the
"real" world, then it is just a monumental waste of time.

And yet.....

Wolfgang

On 2-Jan-2008, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Somewhere I think waterboarding fits into this somewhere in what is
written below....

snipped yet another iteration of mentally deficient drivel

Well, you're wrong......again.

Imbecile.

Wolfgang
god, i love these threads!

I hate them.
Mike And I wish that Lacourse Fortenberry and Connor would stop this ****
This is the kind of spiteful, hateful, non fishing crap that ruins ROFF for
many.

Except for Wolfgang

Dumbass

Fred

wrote in message
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On 2-Jan-2008, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Somewhere I think waterboarding fits into this somewhere in what is
written below....

snipped yet another iteration of mentally deficient drivel

Well, you're wrong......again.

Imbecile.

Wolfgang
god, i love these threads!

I hate them.

Thus explaining your participation......right?

Mike

Gesundheit.

And I wish that Lacourse Fortenberry and Connor would stop this ****

Well, wish in one hand and **** in the other. Let us know which hand fills
up first.

This is the kind of spiteful, hateful, non fishing crap that ruins ROFF
for
many.

The rest will presumably have to find some other kind of spiteful, hateful,
non fishing crap to ruin if for them. Convenience being convenient (if
nothing else), I guess it sucks to be them.

Except for Wolfgang

Yeah, I'm easy to please. It's not my fault.....peasant stock and all that.

Dumbass

ouch.

Fred

Moron.

Wolfgang