Long tapered leaders

On Feb 8, 3:05 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
Has anyone had success turning over flies with long tapered
leaders?
Currently I'm using 4x 9' knotless tapered leaders with 18"
5x tippet material and been having good success turning over
18-16 size flies. I'm now planning to try 12' leaders with an 18"
5x tippet material. I'm thinking however the leaders don't
necessarily have to be knotless.
Any good formulas for 12' leaders for delicate presentation?
Keep in mind I do want to use 18" tippet material.
thanks,
-tom

I use them... No one really had much good to say about them, but I
fish a big tailwaters mostly. I think just like anyone you can get
carried away with a ton of leader, and struggling to get the
presentation just right when using one. On a nice non-windy day I
believe they work on a lot of those picky fish either runnin shallow
or in calm water. It does take practice to cast but I think you should
try it and see if it's right for your situation.

One thing I've learned about casting 12' leaders is, it's more
difficult to cast short distances. I've been practicing casting at
various distances between 25' - 60' with the long leaders.
At shorter distances of 25' there's less line and therefore less
weight to carry the leader effectively for a good turnover of
the fly. This is where good tip-caster could do well.
-tom

Tom Nakashima wrote:
One thing I've learned about casting 12' leaders is, it's more
difficult to cast short distances. I've been practicing casting at
various distances between 25' - 60' with the long leaders.
At shorter distances of 25' there's less line and therefore less
weight to carry the leader effectively for a good turnover of
the fly. This is where good tip-caster could do well.
-tom



You need a 12' rod. :-)

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"rw" wrote



You need a 12' rod. :-)



Which, for no reason even I can understand, reminds me that I've never been
able to 'dap' with any success ... seems the wind is blowing whenever I need
to try it and lowering the fly into the correct spot becomes an exercise in
frustration

"rw" wrote in message
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Tom Nakashima wrote:
One thing I've learned about casting 12' leaders is, it's more
difficult to cast short distances. I've been practicing casting at
various distances between 25' - 60' with the long leaders.
At shorter distances of 25' there's less line and therefore less
weight to carry the leader effectively for a good turnover of
the fly. This is where good tip-caster could do well.
-tom
You need a 12' rod. :-)
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

It's just the opposite Steve,
to "cast short distances" with longer leaders, say 12' leaders,
a 7.5" fly-rod would work better. Or tip-cast. I was playing around
with tip-casting (using more of the wrist) and was able to generate
enough speed at a short distances to turn over the fly.

It's probably good to have a length range of leaders handy, and to
know how to cast them at various distances.
-tom