OT Vista

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:49:19 GMT, "Larry L" wrote:

Is Vista as bad, buggy, and machine clogging, as I've heard ...i.e. pretty
damn bad? I've don't know anyone, personally, that is using it.

Not really. I've been running it since the early betas, and now with SP1 it is
comparable in speed and stability to XP, at least for mainstream stuff. There's
a bit of a learning curve but not too bad. Most of the issues seem to deal with
legacy app's and peripherals.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:49:19 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

Is Vista as bad, buggy, and machine clogging, as I've heard ...i.e.
pretty
damn bad? I've don't know anyone, personally, that is using it.

Not really. I've been running it since the early betas, and now with SP1
it is
comparable in speed and stability to XP, at least for mainstream stuff.
There's
a bit of a learning curve but not too bad. Most of the issues seem to deal
with
legacy app's and peripherals.

Ditto that...

If you are starting fresh and aren't planning to migrate pre Vista software,
you should be fine. We have started moving some users to Vista at work
without issues and my new (4 month old laptop) has been stable.

JT

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:40:10 -0700, "JT"
wrote:


"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:49:19 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

Is Vista as bad, buggy, and machine clogging, as I've heard ...i.e.
pretty
damn bad? I've don't know anyone, personally, that is using it.

Not really. I've been running it since the early betas, and now with SP1
it is
comparable in speed and stability to XP, at least for mainstream stuff.
There's
a bit of a learning curve but not too bad. Most of the issues seem to deal
with
legacy app's and peripherals.

Ditto that...

If you are starting fresh and aren't planning to migrate pre Vista software,
you should be fine. We have started moving some users to Vista at work
without issues and my new (4 month old laptop) has been stable.

JT

To me, the pre-Vista issue is _MAJOR_ factor. For example, it took a
while for Garmin to catch up with XP SR2 - the software needed to
install maps, etc. didn't work with SP2 for a period, which was a major
PITA. I'd offer that one should really investigate what their needs are
before such an upgrade to the OS. This is among the reasons we haven't
upgraded yet.

TC,
R

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:59:57 -0500, wrote:

For example, it took a
while for Garmin to catch up with XP SR2 - the software needed to
install maps, etc. didn't work with SP2 for a period, which was a major
PITA.

FWIW, MapSource works fine on Vista.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:05:27 -0400, Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:59:57 -0500, wrote:

For example, it took a
while for Garmin to catch up with XP SR2 - the software needed to
install maps, etc. didn't work with SP2 for a period, which was a major
PITA.

FWIW, MapSource works fine on Vista.

Oh, yeah, it now works on SP2 as well, but for a period of time (I can't
remember exactly how long, but it was more than a month, less than a
year) it didn't. As you can well imagine, having major issues with the
updating of nautical/offshore charts on chartplotters, GPSs, etc. in
larger boats, esp. in the wake of Katrina, was, um, well, not a good
thing.

TC,
R

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On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:40:10 -0700, "JT"
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:49:19 GMT, "Larry L"

wrote:

Is Vista as bad, buggy, and machine clogging, as I've heard ...i.e.
pretty
damn bad? I've don't know anyone, personally, that is using it.

Not really. I've been running it since the early betas, and now with SP1
it is
comparable in speed and stability to XP, at least for mainstream stuff.
There's
a bit of a learning curve but not too bad. Most of the issues seem to
deal
with
legacy app's and peripherals.

Ditto that...

If you are starting fresh and aren't planning to migrate pre Vista
software,
you should be fine. We have started moving some users to Vista at work
without issues and my new (4 month old laptop) has been stable.

JT

To me, the pre-Vista issue is _MAJOR_ factor. For example, it took a
while for Garmin to catch up with XP SR2 - the software needed to
install maps, etc. didn't work with SP2 for a period, which was a major
PITA. I'd offer that one should really investigate what their needs are
before such an upgrade to the OS. This is among the reasons we haven't
upgraded yet.

TC,
R

I would agree completely. I was going off Larry's first e-mail where he
mentioned using it for e-mail and saving photos. Had he mentioned adding
older software in the first post, I would have said no way.

JT

"JT" wrote

I would agree completely. I was going off Larry's first e-mail where he
mentioned using it for e-mail and saving photos. Had he mentioned adding
older software in the first post, I would have said no way.



I just went off to buy Rosetta Stone Spanish programs and noticed this

"
Current Rosetta Stone® products have been engineered to install and run on
the Windows Vista operating system. Some 3rd party components used in
Rosetta Stone products have not been certified by Microsoft as ‘Vista
Compliant’. Accordingly, you may encounter some Vista-related operating
issues. Rosetta Stone technical support may or may not be able to resolve
these Vista-related issues. Rosetta Stone hereby disclaims any
representations, warranties, guaranties and conditions with respect to the
compatibility of the Rosetta Stone products with the Windows Vista operating
systems"


So even though it's "engineered" for Vista, they don't expect it to work on
it !!

"Larry L" wrote in message
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"JT" wrote

I would agree completely. I was going off Larry's first e-mail where he
mentioned using it for e-mail and saving photos. Had he mentioned adding
older software in the first post, I would have said no way.



I just went off to buy Rosetta Stone Spanish programs and noticed this

"
Current Rosetta Stone® products have been engineered to install and run on
the Windows Vista operating system. Some 3rd party components used in
Rosetta Stone products have not been certified by Microsoft as 'Vista
Compliant'. Accordingly, you may encounter some Vista-related operating
issues. Rosetta Stone technical support may or may not be able to resolve
these Vista-related issues. Rosetta Stone hereby disclaims any
representations, warranties, guaranties and conditions with respect to the
compatibility of the Rosetta Stone products with the Windows Vista
operating
systems"


So even though it's "engineered" for Vista, they don't expect it to work
on it !!

Old or NEW software (that's even engineered for Vista)! It's nice they let
you know before you buy it!

So far Vista has worked okay for me, however it's pretty much only been used
for standard apps, email, ERP, & the Microsoft suite. Anything beyond that I
have seen, heard and experienced issues.

Someone mentioned Microsoft ME over Vista, no thanks. I hated MS ME.

JT

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:36:51 -0400, Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:49:19 GMT, "Larry L" wrote:

Is Vista as bad, buggy, and machine clogging, as I've heard ...i.e. pretty
damn bad? I've don't know anyone, personally, that is using it.

Not really. I've been running it since the early betas, and now with SP1 it is
comparable in speed and stability to XP, at least for mainstream stuff. There's
a bit of a learning curve but not too bad. Most of the issues seem to deal with
legacy app's and peripherals.

OK, I'm curious as to your opinion as to why most folks would want to
upgrade to Vista.

TC,
R

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:44:06 -0500, wrote:

OK, I'm curious as to your opinion as to why most folks would want to
upgrade to Vista.

If you are happy and productive with XP on a current machine, no particular
reason - unless you want to switch to the 64bit version, which has better memory
management than the 64 bit version of XP. If you get a new machine with Vista on
it and the applications and devices you are using are currently supported by
their vendors, then there is no particular reason *not* to run Vista. If you are
waiting for the next OS from MS, be prepared to wait longer than you think, and
be advised that it will likely be more similar to, and have more in common with,
Vista than XP.
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Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com