OT Vista

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:49:19 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

I've been shopping for a laptop for my summer travels and it's hard to find
anything that doesn't have Vista as the OS ( I looked at the MacBook Pro but
don't want to spend that much to send e-mail and store a few photos
...besides Apple people always seem to be a bit weird :-)

Is Vista as bad, buggy, and machine clogging, as I've heard ...i.e. pretty
damn bad? I've don't know anyone, personally, that is using it.


I'd recommend solving your problem by buying a good used laptop running
XP. I've seen laptops that would be way beyond enough for your stated
usage for $100-300.00USD on Craigslist, in the classifieds, etc. And
these aren't particularly old units - P4 class with 512 megs, 40-80 gig
HDs, CDRW/DVD players, etc. and better. Some folks, esp. gamers, simply
can't resist buying the "latest and greatest." I picked up a fairly
decked out large-screen ThinkPad (18 month old) for $150 on CL about 3
months ago. I bought it for use on a boat, so I didn't want to spend
much, and was somewhat shocked at what a coupla-hundred US would buy.

If you simply wish to buy new and/or use Vista, I'd offer that Charlie
Choc is about as good a source as you're likely to find (although not
the exclusive source) on ROFF. I've not upgraded any of our machines to
it simply because I've not found a need to do so - IOW, don't fix what
ain't broke.

TC,
R

wrote

I'd recommend solving your problem by buying a good used laptop running
XP.


Since I posted earlier today I found a 'refurbished' one at Dell with a 1
year warranty and more than enough power ( AMD dual-core 1.8ghz, 1gig ram,
fast vid card, onboard WiFi etc ) for my modest needs ... $446.00 to my
door



One reason I wanted to avoid Vista is because I DO have several older
programs I want to run ... and a couple oddball things like Apache, PHP and
MySql, too I KNOW they all work fine on XP, have them on several
different machines, but I'm not looking for a hassle trying to get it all
running on an unknown ( to me ) OS


Thanks all for replies

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:56:49 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:


wrote

I'd recommend solving your problem by buying a good used laptop running
XP.


Since I posted earlier today I found a 'refurbished' one at Dell with a 1
year warranty and more than enough power ( AMD dual-core 1.8ghz, 1gig ram,
fast vid card, onboard WiFi etc ) for my modest needs ... $446.00 to my
door



One reason I wanted to avoid Vista is because I DO have several older
programs I want to run ... and a couple oddball things like Apache, PHP and
MySql, too I KNOW they all work fine on XP, have them on several
different machines, but I'm not looking for a hassle trying to get it all
running on an unknown ( to me ) OS


Thanks all for replies

Glad it worked out and it sounds like you got a deal.

TC,
R

Larry L wrote:
wrote


I'd recommend solving your problem by buying a good used laptop running
XP.



Since I posted earlier today I found a 'refurbished' one at Dell with a 1
year warranty and more than enough power ( AMD dual-core 1.8ghz, 1gig ram,
fast vid card, onboard WiFi etc ) for my modest needs ... $446.00 to my
door



One reason I wanted to avoid Vista is because I DO have several older
programs I want to run ... and a couple oddball things like Apache, PHP and
MySql, too I KNOW they all work fine on XP, have them on several
different machines, but I'm not looking for a hassle trying to get it all
running on an unknown ( to me ) OS

If you'd bought an Intel-based Mac (it would be more than $446) you'd be
able to run XP AND Vista, in addition to OS X, which is superior to both
of them.

Bundled software (Boot Camp) lets you boot into any of those OS. You
could also run Linux, and probably some other OS I'm not aware of.

With third-party virtualization software (Parallels or VMware Fusion)
you'd be able to run all of them at the same time.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"rw" wrote


If you'd bought an Intel-based Mac (it would be more than $446) you'd be
able to run XP AND Vista, in addition to OS X, which is superior to both
of them.

Bundled software (Boot Camp) lets you boot into any of those OS. You could
also run Linux, and probably some other OS I'm not aware of.

With third-party virtualization software (Parallels or VMware Fusion)
you'd be able to run all of them at the same time.




I'd like to try a Mac someday
... but, as mentioned, my shopping made it seem beyond my needs/means just
to stick in the travel trailer

... we're still spending plenty each year getting the kid higherly
eddakated at the fancy universery
.....so I drive a '92 Dodge and buy used laptops

..... but a bit of a brag on the returns from my investment, the kid called
this morning with the news that he was accepted into Phi Beta Kappa, not a
huge deal, but they Have had a couple fairly accomplished members since
1776, so
.... I be proud, ( and glad he takes after his mom, not his Okie bumpkin,
dimly lit, old man )

Larry L wrote:


..... but a bit of a brag on the returns from my investment, the kid called
this morning with the news that he was accepted into Phi Beta Kappa, not a
huge deal, but they Have had a couple fairly accomplished members since
1776, so
.... I be proud, ( and glad he takes after his mom, not his Okie bumpkin,
dimly lit, old man )



there is no better investment...no, there may be nothing better... than
seeing your child achieve beyond your own station, abilities, and
expectations. it is a huge deal, and all three of you are justifiably
proud in the accomplishment. it didn't happen without significant
effort by each of you. congratulations.

jeff

"jeff miller" wrote


there is no better investment...


I was a reluctant father before becoming one ... overpopulation is a major
issue for me and has been since I was old enough to understand it, if not
contribute to it yet.

Now, I rank the experience with any I can even imagine ... but certainly
still think we all have to limit our production.

Being a late starter ( I was 39 when the kid arrived ) has allowed us
several advantages and we've worked hard at trying to provide opportunities.
My wife is the best mother I've ever seen in action, an artist at a
wonderful craft, a beautiful woman whose deepest beauty only became apparent
when her child arrived. My kid is 21 1/2 and it's been a little over 21
years since I had my last drink ... I was a flaming, drunk daily, alcoholic
back then .. when I realized I didn't want MY kid raised by one of those
....... he saved MY life, of that I am 100% certain.

Yes, parenting can be great but it can be tough, too.

For instance, apparently the ceremony to initiate him into pbk is something
parents are invited to and he wants us there. It's to be May 18th. My
wife already has airline tickets and Broadway tickets bought and paid for
and will be in NYC May 18th. I'M 'supposed' to be in Ashton, Id. fishing
the lower HFork on May 18th .... but I guess I'll be feeling uncomfortable,
a bumpkin out of place, at a stuffy ceremony over at University Of The
Pacific ... instead .... parenting is tough



Jeff, others,

Thanks

"Larry L" wrote in message
...
but I guess I'll be feeling uncomfortable,
a bumpkin out of place, at a stuffy ceremony over at University Of The
Pacific ... instead .... parenting is tough


congrats to you both, and your son. I'm sure your new social plans for the
day will work out fine, and be a bit more memorable.
Tom

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

I'd like to try a Mac someday
... but, as mentioned, my shopping made it seem beyond my needs/means just
to stick in the travel trailer

Apple allows students and/or their families to purchase one desktop and one
laptop per year at a slightly discounted price. You mentioned the macbook
pro but the entry level macbook is a pretty decent machine and more than
capable of handling the tasks you mention for around a grand with the
discount.

Congrats on the kid's accomplishments. You have every right to be proud.

On Apr 2, 12:36*pm, "Larry L" wrote:
"rw" wrote



If you'd bought an Intel-based Mac (it would be more than $446) you'd be
able to run XP AND Vista, in addition to OS X, which is superior to both
of them.

Bundled software (Boot Camp) lets you boot into any of those OS. You could
also run Linux, and probably some other OS I'm not aware of.

With third-party virtualization software (Parallels or VMware Fusion)
you'd be able to run all of them at the same time.

I'd like to try a Mac someday
*... but, as mentioned, my shopping made it seem beyond my needs/means just
to stick in the travel trailer

*... we're still spending plenty each year getting the kid higherly
eddakated at the fancy universery
....so I drive a '92 Dodge and buy used laptops

*..... but a bit of a brag on the returns from my investment, the kid called
this morning with the news that he was accepted into Phi Beta Kappa, *not a
huge deal, but they Have had a couple fairly accomplished members since
1776, so
*.... I be proud, ( and glad he takes after his mom, not his Okie bumpkin,
dimly lit, old man )

Hey, it IS a big deal. Good going.
Dave