OT Vista

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:56:49 GMT, "Larry L" wrote:

... and a couple oddball things like Apache, PHP and
MySql, too

I run my web server (Apache, PHP, MySQL) on Linux ,XP is a lousy platform for
Apache.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

Guy wrote:
"Chip Thomas" wrote in message
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Larry L wrote:
I've been shopping for a laptop for my summer travels and it's hard to
find anything that doesn't have Vista as the OS ( I looked at the MacBook
Pro but don't want to spend that much to send e-mail and store a few
photos ...besides Apple people always seem to be a bit weird :-)

Is Vista as bad, buggy, and machine clogging, as I've heard ...i.e.
pretty damn bad? I've don't know anyone, personally, that is using it.
Vista is ****. If you get a Vista-based laptop you should immediately
upgrade to XP SP2.

Is XP SP2 an upgrade for Vista? Or is it XP?
Thanks,
G



XP SP2 (XP Service Pack 2) is an upgrade from Vista back to XP. Its
moving backwards to a better operating system.

"Charlie Choc" wrote

I run my web server (Apache, PHP, MySQL) on Linux ,XP is a lousy platform
for
Apache.
--


agreed ...

I don't use it as a 'real' web server, just to test scripts on my local
machine, before uploading to a real server.



To be honest, the only reason I 'need' them on the laptop is that my fishing
log was built using PHP/MySql, so I keep track of getting skunked daily
using three 'Linux' Open Source apps. I may soon shut down my web site
and stop keeping track of the skunks. It served me well when I was still in
business, but my main reason for the domain, at this point, is that e-mail
addresses for my entire family go through it.

Chip Thomas wrote:
Guy wrote:

"Chip Thomas" wrote in message
...

Larry L wrote:

I've been shopping for a laptop for my summer travels and it's hard
to find anything that doesn't have Vista as the OS ( I looked at the
MacBook Pro but don't want to spend that much to send e-mail and
store a few photos ...besides Apple people always seem to be a bit
weird :-)

Is Vista as bad, buggy, and machine clogging, as I've heard ...i.e.
pretty damn bad? I've don't know anyone, personally, that is using
it.

Vista is ****. If you get a Vista-based laptop you should
immediately upgrade to XP SP2.


Is XP SP2 an upgrade for Vista? Or is it XP?
Thanks,
G


XP SP2 (XP Service Pack 2) is an upgrade from Vista back to XP. Its
moving backwards to a better operating system.

An "upgrade" back to XP??? That's hilarious. I feel sorry for you guys.

Maybe you can get an upgrade back to DOS.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"rw" wrote


Maybe you can get an upgrade back to DOS.



Dangit ... I hate dorkie "LOL" posts
but, that, really had me

LOL

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:05:27 -0400, Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:59:57 -0500, wrote:

For example, it took a
while for Garmin to catch up with XP SR2 - the software needed to
install maps, etc. didn't work with SP2 for a period, which was a major
PITA.

FWIW, MapSource works fine on Vista.

Oh, yeah, it now works on SP2 as well, but for a period of time (I can't
remember exactly how long, but it was more than a month, less than a
year) it didn't. As you can well imagine, having major issues with the
updating of nautical/offshore charts on chartplotters, GPSs, etc. in
larger boats, esp. in the wake of Katrina, was, um, well, not a good
thing.

TC,
R

On Apr 2, 11:23 pm, "Larry L" wrote:


I don't use it as a 'real' web server, just to test scripts on my local
machine, before uploading to a real server.

To be honest, the only reason I 'need' them on the laptop is that my fishing
log was built using PHP/MySql, so I keep track of getting skunked daily
using three 'Linux' Open Source apps. I may soon shut down my web site
and stop keeping track of the skunks. It served me well when I was still in
business, but my main reason for the domain, at this point, is that e-mail
addresses for my entire family go through it.

http://www.wampserver.com/en/

TL
MC

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:36:51 -0400, Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:49:19 GMT, "Larry L" wrote:

Is Vista as bad, buggy, and machine clogging, as I've heard ...i.e. pretty
damn bad? I've don't know anyone, personally, that is using it.

Not really. I've been running it since the early betas, and now with SP1 it is
comparable in speed and stability to XP, at least for mainstream stuff. There's
a bit of a learning curve but not too bad. Most of the issues seem to deal with
legacy app's and peripherals.

OK, I'm curious as to your opinion as to why most folks would want to
upgrade to Vista.

TC,
R

XP SP3 also "breaks" a few "old" applications, at least the latest
beta does. Remains to be seen whether the final release solves the
problems. So be careful if you want to "upgrade".
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

With regard to Vista, I also "downgraded" to XP, as I simply had too
many problems with Vista and various applications. Was also extremely
slow.

I run one machine with this;

http://www.ubuntu.com/

quite excellent, but some terrible problems with peripherals, most
especially external hardware drivers, ( scanner, printer, etc), so not
yet a real alternative to windows.

TL
MC

On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:44:06 -0500, wrote:

OK, I'm curious as to your opinion as to why most folks would want to
upgrade to Vista.

If you are happy and productive with XP on a current machine, no particular
reason - unless you want to switch to the 64bit version, which has better memory
management than the 64 bit version of XP. If you get a new machine with Vista on
it and the applications and devices you are using are currently supported by
their vendors, then there is no particular reason *not* to run Vista. If you are
waiting for the next OS from MS, be prepared to wait longer than you think, and
be advised that it will likely be more similar to, and have more in common with,
Vista than XP.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com