Fisherman needing HELP!!

I feel that in some aspects I am a strong fly fishermen, but one area I
need help is picking the right fly. Today I was fishing on the Musky
with a great hatch going on. The fish were jumping out feeding, I tryed
all the dry flies I had but nothing worked. The flies that I saw were
small black flies. What flies are these, I was soo mad I'm about to
msell all of my fidhing gear to buy new photography gear, stick with
what you know. HELP hoe can I learn what flies are what?

Thanks,
AP


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"A Polinger" wrote in message
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I feel that in some aspects I am a strong fly fishermen, but one area I
need help is picking the right fly. Today I was fishing on the Musky
with a great hatch going on. The fish were jumping out feeding, I tryed
all the dry flies I had but nothing worked. The flies that I saw were
small black flies. What flies are these, I was soo mad I'm about to
msell all of my fidhing gear to buy new photography gear, stick with
what you know. HELP hoe can I learn what flies are what?

1. Get almost any trout guide (local library) and learn how to
tell apart:
caddis species (downwings)
mayfly species (upwings)
stoneflies and the like
terrestrials.
2. Start recording the size of naturals in millimetres
(or hook sizes.)

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

Peter's advice is sound. One of the things about the sport of fly
fishing(that some of us find appealing) is that it involves an ongoing
learning process. One not only has to learn about food items(bugs, and much
more), but about fish feeding patterns. Sometimes, what seems to be frantic
surface feeding is actually going on right UNDER the surface, requiring the
fly to presented at that level. Hold off on the tackle sale, and give the
sport some patience.
Believe me, we've all been to the place you were in today.
Tom

On 2008-06-07, A Polinger wrote:


with a great hatch going on.

I've always heard it's kinda pointless to fish during a heavy hatch because
there are so many natural insects, no matter what you offer, it will be
inferior to the real thing. Also, the chances of a fish taking your fake
out of thousands of the real thing is low.

That's just what I've heard. I don't know. Should I be fishing during a
hatch? (I'm new, too)


small black flies.

Might be midges.

nb

Pete,
Thanks for the info, now I dont feel as dumb for not getting any.
AP


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What do you mean don't fish the hatch notbob.........If you don't fish
the hatch sell your gear because you are missing catching alot of fish
and a great experience.......Come to the Penns Clave next year notbob
we will show you how to fish the hatch........If your fly doesn't look
enough like the hatch you shouldn't be using that fly if you have
clouds of caddis put one on not all of them stay in the air some fall
into the water at least you have a chance of getting a fish instead of
standing there with a dumb look on you face..........I will find out
the name of a book I think it's Northeast flies not real sure I have
one but it's on loan but I did see one on the desk of softhackles
flyshop pennscreekangler.com i can get the name from him it shows both
the natural and the artifishle (sp) helped me alot I don't have to
say Tom what's that in the air anymore.........I have been told that
if you have big splashy rises the fish are looking for emergers (flies
as they come out of the water)..........thats my .02 will post name of
book when I get it..........

On 2008-06-08, Mike wrote:

if you have big splashy rises the fish are looking for emergers (flies
as they come out of the water)..........thats my .02 will post name of
book when I get it..........

Thanks, Mike. No, I was just saying that is what I've heard and read in a
couple FF books. I suppose I should have actually fished a hatch to see
if it is true. No more hearsay. I'll fish the hatch next time I see one.
I've seen two caddis hatches, so far. One pretty heavy, one not so. I've
had no luck with dry flies, but have been successful a couple times with
nymphs. I'm going to try a dry/nymph dropper this afternoon. We may have a
hatch, it being a warm semi-overcast day.

nb

the flies you were seeing are black caddis. It took me years to figure
them out but they are so abundant in most streams its worth the
time.Here are afew secrets[dont tell anyone:rofl:] Yes its true some
fish sre jumping taking flies out of the air but most of the fish you
seejumping are actually charging emergers so a all black soft hackle
swung is deadly.Also after the caddis lay ther eggs they drift serenly
on the water so a hemingway caddis works great trim the hackle so it
rides flush. one last thing all black flies are near impossible to see
on the water know were your leader is if you see a rise close lift you
got em .


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Try an unweighted RS-2 as a dropper below an adult caddis imitation. If the
trout are more keyed into the emergers, that RS-2, either stuck in the film
or swilling around below your dry, could be your ticket. It has worked for
me in the past.

--Dave Eriksen

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Pete,
Thanks for the info, now I dont feel as dumb for not getting any.
AP


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