So maybe McCain's gas-tax holiday ain't so silly...if you're a Dem...

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minor correction....at least as I read it, this wasn't actually the DNC
involved directly, but a setup committee, probably connected Dems from the
Colorado area.
Tom

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:13:02 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
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minor correction....at least as I read it, this wasn't actually the DNC
involved directly, but a setup committee, probably connected Dems from the
Colorado area.
Tom


While that's probably correct, it's not really a redemptive - the
committee consists of the Mayor of Denver, the Governor of Colorado, the
Dem Senator, a Dem House member, a Dem councilwoman, and a token
civilian, a connected lawyer...and hizzoner da Mayor's primary defenses:
"Oh yeah? Well, the GOP is doing it..." and when that didn't fly, he
switched to "it's OK because our committee is non-partisan..."

IAC, given that they expect to use some 100,000 gals of gas and evading
the tax would have saved some 40 grand, I'd offer that if in the search
for green, they went looking for organic, union-made totebags, someone
with some juice at the DNC knew about the tax holiday...

TC,
R

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still, on the whole this(as with the vast bulk of the 'stories' generated
thus far in the election cycle) strikes me as trivial....and, that's being
sort of generous. Let's face it:
the real show doesn't start until after the conventions, and I sure do hope
there is a bit more to chew on than the
assorted "gaffes", dissecting Obama's trip abroad, Jesse Jackson, and how
McCain parses recent history. There is the potential(as I stated to you,
once, I believe) for an real debate as to the nature of how to move the
nation forward. Now, let's see if these two can deal with holding that
debate, or whether the whole process turns into the usual media-driven
drivel-fest.
Tom

Tom Littleton wrote:
... Let's face it:
the real show doesn't start until after the conventions, and I sure do hope
there is a bit more to chew on than the
assorted "gaffes", dissecting Obama's trip abroad, Jesse Jackson, and how
McCain parses recent history. There is the potential(as I stated to you,
once, I believe) for an real debate as to the nature of how to move the
nation forward. Now, let's see if these two can deal with holding that
debate, or whether the whole process turns into the usual media-driven
drivel-fest.

The trouble is the American voter is so goddamn stupid the only
way to win is to play the usual media-driven, drivel-fest game
better than the other guy.

Sad but true. And I think Obama is not only up to the task but
pretty damn good at it. Also sad but true.

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Ken Fortenberry

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:15:03 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Sad but true. And I think Obama is not only up to the task but
pretty damn good at it. Also sad but true.

I would venture to say that if he played the saxophone he would be
guaranteed the WH. Curious as to who he will select for veep.

How ya doin', btw?

Dave

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Sad but true. And I think Obama is not only up to the task but
pretty damn good at it. Also sad but true.

I would venture to say that if he played the saxophone he would be
guaranteed the WH. Curious as to who he will select for veep.

How ya doin', btw?

Yeah, Obama is looking more and more "Clintonian" every day.
That's not necessarily a bad thing, it's actually a relief
to see a Dem willing to do whatever it takes to win instead
of pandering to the leftie lunatic fringe.

I don't know about veep. It won't be Billary and my choice,
John Edwards, is up to his nuts in an Enquirer scandal. In
the end I don't think it matters much.

I'm doin' fine, thanks for askin'.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:15:03 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Tom Littleton wrote:
... Let's face it:
the real show doesn't start until after the conventions, and I sure do hope
there is a bit more to chew on than the
assorted "gaffes", dissecting Obama's trip abroad, Jesse Jackson, and how
McCain parses recent history. There is the potential(as I stated to you,
once, I believe) for an real debate as to the nature of how to move the
nation forward. Now, let's see if these two can deal with holding that
debate, or whether the whole process turns into the usual media-driven
drivel-fest.

The trouble is the American voter is so goddamn stupid the only
way to win is to play the usual media-driven, drivel-fest game
better than the other guy.

Sad but true. And I think Obama is not only up to the task but
pretty damn good at it. Also sad but true.

AH-HAH!! I knew if I waited long enough, someone, somewhere would
finally clearly state one thing his record clearly demonstrates that in
which he truly excels...well, it's sad but true...

Thanks,
R

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:55:17 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


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still, on the whole this(as with the vast bulk of the 'stories' generated
thus far in the election cycle) strikes me as trivial....and, that's being
sort of generous. Let's face it:
the real show doesn't start until after the conventions, and I sure do hope
there is a bit more to chew on than the
assorted "gaffes", dissecting Obama's trip abroad, Jesse Jackson, and how
McCain parses recent history.

Those are two completely different issues - what's actually telling
about a candidate and party leadership and what'll be flogged to the
public as important...

There is the potential(as I stated to you,
once, I believe) for an real debate as to the nature of how to move the
nation forward.

Oh, there's always that potential...and my guess is, the above, that
the meaningful debate and the actual campaign won't so much as cross
paths...

Now, let's see if these two can deal with holding that
debate, or whether the whole process turns into the usual media-driven
drivel-fest.

"Turns into"...?! Obama and his entourage (containing nary a Senate
staffer) goes to the Western Wall as part of his "fact finding,
non-campaign visit" with 9,134 reporters in tow, puts some paper under a
rock while, pardon the pun, God only knows how many people watched, and
then acts shocked - SHOCKED, I TELL YA!! - that someone not only grabbed
up but printed his "prayer"...you couldn't separate "drivel-fest" from
"media" with a pair of D11s and the anchor rode from an aircraft
carrier...

TC,
R
Tom

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:28:49 -0500, wrote:
[...]
"Turns into"...?! Obama and his entourage (containing nary a Senate
staffer) goes to the Western Wall as part of his "fact finding,
non-campaign visit" with 9,134 reporters in tow, puts some paper under a
rock while, pardon the pun, God only knows how many people watched, and
then acts shocked - SHOCKED, I TELL YA!! - that someone not only grabbed
up but printed his "prayer"...you couldn't separate "drivel-fest" from
"media" with a pair of D11s and the anchor rode from an aircraft
carrier...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-sacrilegious/

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:19:47 -0400, daytripper
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:28:49 -0500, wrote:
[...]
"Turns into"...?! Obama and his entourage (containing nary a Senate
staffer) goes to the Western Wall as part of his "fact finding,
non-campaign visit" with 9,134 reporters in tow, puts some paper under a
rock while, pardon the pun, God only knows how many people watched, and
then acts shocked - SHOCKED, I TELL YA!! - that someone not only grabbed
up but printed his "prayer"...you couldn't separate "drivel-fest" from
"media" with a pair of D11s and the anchor rode from an aircraft
carrier...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-sacrilegious/


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