Fly Tying Question

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:14:54 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:23:12 -0700, wrote:

Doing the math will be sobering. In round numbers at $10.00 a dozen,
which in real terms is over market, Vinny would need to build 2500 dz
to make 25k. Assuming he sits for an 8 hour plus day, 5 days a week,
he would need to average about 1.5 dozen an hour to crack that nut.
Many think ...that's all?... I can do that, what's the big?....my
suggestion would be then, sit down and tye as many princes you can in
one day... then get up the next day and do it again for 8 hours...if
after 5 days if you still have the fire...you have a chance of making
the 25k. I tied for supplemental monies ( sons college) and gear for
over 10 years, my last order was a mixed bag of 1700 dozen...I
finished it but it took all the "spare" time I had for over a year and
soured me on doing anything remotely close again. Being able to tye
the bug is one thing but to do it for weeks on end is another thing
altogether.

harry

I have considered all of that, Harry. I doubt he would become that
"successful". He does need a jolt of self respect mostly. He is down
because he isn't able to perform like other kids his age. It is
finally dawning on him. I am thinking that if he can make some money
on his own like tying flies that he will be happier. We'll see.
Thanks for the insight.

PS...still no killer caddis...sorry

You better get 'em to me, quick, or I'll have Vinny tying them for me.
d;o)

Won't need them until spring, anyway. Thanks for remembering.

Dave



I know of one shop owner around here who would pay some of the
students in his classes to tye some patterns for his boxes. Obviously
these flies where not size 20 No Hackles but rather buggers and hares
ears and the like. Worked out very well for both parties and the
flies were of good quality. Maybe someone in your area does or would
do something similar?

On Sep 26, 5:05*am, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:14:54 -0400, Dave LaCourse





wrote:
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:23:12 -0700, wrote:

Doing the math will be sobering. In round numbers at $10.00 a dozen,
which in real terms is over market, Vinny would need to build 2500 dz
to make 25k. Assuming he sits for an 8 hour plus day, 5 days a week,
he would need to average about 1.5 dozen an hour to crack that nut.
Many think ...that's all?... I can do that, what's the big?....my
suggestion would be then, sit down and tye as many princes you can in
one day... then get up the next day and do it again for 8 hours...if
after 5 days if you still have the fire...you have a chance of making
the 25k. I tied for supplemental *monies ( sons college) and gear for
over 10 years, my last order was a mixed bag of 1700 dozen...I
finished it but it took all the "spare" time I had for over a year and
soured me on doing anything remotely close again. Being able to tye
the bug is one thing but to do it for weeks on end is another thing
altogether.

harry

I have considered all of that, Harry. *I doubt he would become that
"successful". *He does need a jolt of self respect mostly. *He is down
because he isn't able to perform like other kids his age. *It is
finally dawning on him. *I am thinking that if he can make some money
on his own like tying flies that he will be happier. *We'll see.
Thanks for the insight.

PS...still no killer caddis...sorry

You better get 'em to me, quick, or I'll have Vinny tying them for me.
d;o)

Won't need them until spring, anyway. *Thanks for remembering.

Dave

I know of one shop owner around here who would pay some of the
students in his classes to tye some patterns for his boxes. Obviously
these flies where not size 20 No Hackles but rather *buggers and hares
ears and the like. Worked out very well for *both parties and the
flies were of good quality. Maybe someone in your area does or would
do something similar?- Hide quoted text -

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Actually, to beat the boredom (and get higher prices), maybe he should
learn to tie SETS. Like a mayfly larvae, pupa, emerger, dun, spinner,
spent spinner. Provide him with some boxes and he can make a
decorative set that sells in a fly shop. Even if he only ties two sets
a day, if he could get $10 for a set, that beats the monotony of tying
2-3 dozen prince nymphs.

I know I get antsy just tying a dozen flies for a swap. I could not
imagine 9 hours a day, 5 days a week, 4 weeks a month, 12 months a
year, year after year...... Yow!

--riverman

"riverman" wrote


I know I get antsy just tying a dozen flies for a swap. I could not
imagine 9 hours a day, 5 days a week, 4 weeks a month,


I've had discussions about this with 3 different "famous" tiers ... each one
a highly intelligent individual ( mentioned because it seems to me that as
such they should be more prone to boredom?? ... mental repetitive stress
syndrome )

They all mentioned simply getting into "a different space" ( or similar
wording ) when tying and suffering little boredom.


I found that a big surprise..



FWIW, I also suggested to each that they try "sets" of flies packaged in a
fancy box and sold as "original TierNameHere flies" for an increased price,
rather than just adding to a shop's bin. None thought the idea worth
considering and that the market was for flies to catch fish not collect ...
another surprise, to me, .... even though I've never considered collecting
flies I assumed others did.

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

"riverman" wrote


I know I get antsy just tying a dozen flies for a swap. I could not
imagine 9 hours a day, 5 days a week, 4 weeks a month,


I've had discussions about this with 3 different "famous" tiers ... each
one
a highly intelligent individual ( mentioned because it seems to me that
as
such they should be more prone to boredom?? ... mental repetitive stress
syndrome )

They all mentioned simply getting into "a different space" ( or similar
wording ) when tying and suffering little boredom.


I found that a big surprise..



FWIW, I also suggested to each that they try "sets" of flies packaged in a
fancy box and sold as "original TierNameHere flies" for an increased
price,
rather than just adding to a shop's bin. None thought the idea worth
considering and that the market was for flies to catch fish not collect
...
another surprise, to me, .... even though I've never considered collecting
flies I assumed others did.




As an alternative why not suggest framed display sets I did a number back
in the eighties and they were quite popular and the markup makes it more
worthwhile at least till the Kenyans get in on the act. Coming towards
Christmas they are a very fine present and in demand once word gets around
http://preview.tinyurl.com/4hreyq
Derek