vote no on "BO"

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:04:57 -0500, Dave LaCourse wrote:


My gawd, Frank. Not you. McCain was born in the Canal Zone, a
legitimate part of Panama that belong to the U.S. Besides, he was born
to a member of the U.S. Military, so regardless *where* he was born, he
is a native born citizen of the U.S.

Not necessarily.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us...11mccain.html?
_r=1&oref=slogin

Regardless, the courts are not going to touch these cases. There have
been 3 or 4 cases regarding Obama's citizenship, all have been
dismissed. There have also been several regarding McCain's citizenship,
also dismissed.

It's a democracy. Do you really want a judge to limit candidacy?

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:51:29 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Like Frank said, it's never been put to the test and as
usual what you lack in knowledge you make up for with
certitude.

... It has been reported that
Obama's own fraternal grandmother said he was born in Kenya. ...

I tried to warn you about wandering around outside without
your tin foil hat.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:54:32 -0800 (PST), DaveS
wrote:


Yawn. I'll take all of that before I take a born muslim (who
practiced it in Indonesian, who has Communist mentors, terrorists as
friends, pro PLO anti-Israeli buds, crooks as financial buddies, a
minister who hates America and its white population, and a wife who
has never been proud to be an American and who is a racist.

Can you answer what has Obama done? McCain has been serving his
country continuously since before Obama was born. WHAT has Obama done
for me, for you, for America? Nothing! He can read a teleprompter
pretty well....... that's about it.

Dave

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:00:01 -0800 (PST), Frank Reid © 2008
wrote:

On Nov 3, 3:34*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:16:16 -0600, Ken Fortenberry

wrote:
Like Frank said, it's never been put to the test and as
usual what you lack in knowledge you make up for with
certitude.

Horse caca. *He was born in a U.S. possession. *If he had been born on
Guam, Alaska or Hawaii before they became states, he would be eligible
for POTUS. *Kenya is NOT part of the U.S. *It has been reported that
Obama's own fraternal grandmother said he was born in Kenya. *And,
yes, even you are eligible for POTUS. *kaaaaack

Obama was born in Hawaii after it became a state. "It has been
reported..." is not good enough. Hell, if we believe the "it has been
reported" stuff, then space aliens are frequent overnight guests at
the White house. For Obama, there is a Hawiian birth certificate.
Works for me until proven in a court otherwise. United States v. Wong
Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898),
On the other the other hand, there is still, "tradition"
notwithstanding, question on the by birth/naturalization question of
those born in protectorates, possessions and of US parents. In
regards to the Panama Canal Zone, on July 28, 1904, Controller of the
Treasury Robert Tracewell stated, "While the general spirit and
purpose of the Constitution is applicable to the zone, that domain is
not a part of the United States within the full meaning of the
Constitution and laws of the country." So this question has been
floundering around for a very long time. It wasn't until 1953 that
those born in the Canal Zone were granted citizenship automatically.
Mr. McCain was born in '36. The Canal Zone at the time was under "US
control." Not a possession or protectorate. I'm not saying that John
McCain is not US citizen, I'm just saying that there is more leqal
grey area possible in John McCain's citizenship than in Barack
Obama's.
Frank Reid

Frank, he is eligible to serve as POSTUS. If you think he isn't, you
are reaching for straws.

Why hasn't the DNC filed papers against him?

"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
...
vote no on barrack hussein obama.....even if he fig's out
where is was born, of what country he belongs to......



yup, this crystallizes the opposition for me!!!
Tom
p.s. c'mon, at least some of you GOP lackeys have to
be embarrassed by this illiterate loon......

Dave LaCourse wrote in
:


Frank, he is eligible to serve as POSTUS. If you think he isn't, you
are reaching for straws.

Why hasn't the DNC filed papers against him?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us.../28mccain.html has a great
review on this, and its not as clear as you seem to think. It hasn't been
pursued just because of a sort of gentleman's agreement-- a can of worms
over a technicality. A contest would probably result in a SC decision in
favor of "natural born"

Then again, bringing it up might actually have resulted in the GOP fielding
a candidate who had a chance of winning, and we wouldn't want that!



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"DaveS" wrote in message
...
But Dave, do you think Cindy McCain will use her position in the
Whitehouse to get large amounts of narcotics like she did with her
"medical charity?"


good Gawd, Snedeker, aim higher! Do you have any idea of the level and
quality of pharmaceuticals that the government has a hold of?? Narcotics?
That woman could find Nirvana if only her husband hadn't just run one of the
worst campaigns in modern history.......
Tom

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
McCain has been serving his
country continuously since before Obama was born.

well, he was bumbling into school on legacy coattails, finishing in the
bottom of his class, crashing planes with alarming frequency, clipping wires
and finally getting his ass shot down(when clearly he was incompetent to
have sent overseas). Then, he returned home to pursue politics, cheat on his
wife, get hooked up with some shady financial deals and, well, yes he has
been serving up something, and pretty damned continuously at that.......

.....sad, that the POW experience seems to be his moral
high water mark......
Tom

"Tom Littleton" wrote in
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That woman could find Nirvana if only her husband hadn't just run one
of the worst campaigns in modern history.......


Maybe the gov could disappear her under the Patriot Act, and use some of
the good drugs to question her.

Wow-- I hope I see the day when all that particular nastiness disappears.
Maybe that's only 90 days away!!


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On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:28:45 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
.. .
McCain has been serving his
country continuously since before Obama was born.

well, he was bumbling into school on legacy coattails, finishing in the
bottom of his class, crashing planes with alarming frequency, clipping wires
and finally getting his ass shot down(when clearly he was incompetent to
have sent overseas). Then, he returned home to pursue politics, cheat on his
wife, get hooked up with some shady financial deals and, well, yes he has
been serving up something, and pretty damned continuously at that.......

....sad, that the POW experience seems to be his moral
high water mark......
Tom


Tom, the man has been serving his country since before Obama was born.
He has decorations to prove it. WHAT does Obama have except a natural
born ability to read a teleprompter? WHAT? WHAT has HE done to serve
this nation? Nothing. Nada. Zippo. Zilch.

Dave