OT- political...only for republicans

On Sep 1, 6:55*am, jeff wrote:


thinking we had a number of more resolute, thinking republicans here, i
thought perhaps a few would chime in and expressly disavow the patent
lunacy of "some partisans" in their party.

Hope springs eternal, they say.

of course, wolfgang was way
ahead of me with regard to the response.

Cheap trick.

You see a hole? You bet a shiny new nickel that the next thing that
pops up out of it is a ****-weasel.

You win vastly more often than you lose.

...and, i agree with much of what you say.

The road to drink.

giles

You need to keep your stories straight Dave. Don't try to bull**** a
bull****ter. Here is what you said on Aug 31st....

" OBAMA'S NAME NEVER COMES INTO THE CONVERSATION."
Then you go into your standard diatribe and it is hard to determine
what is real and what is not.

And didn't you say . . .
"Obama's name doesnt come into the conversation. They are ****ed at
what this country has become, and it sure as hell isn't their fauls."

But, hey then you said this. . .

"The blacks and Puerto Ricans at the food pantry shake their heads
when
YOU MENTION HIS NAME. THEY are ****ed at him for doing nothing
except
talk, talk, talk, and taking multiple vacations they can only dream
of.
And the newly unemployed are down right outraged at him. I see it
every Tues and Thursday. "

So hold on Dave which is it? First you say the foodbank folks don't
mention Obama, and you don't mention Obama, THEN YOU SAY YOU DO
MENTION HIS NAME. First you are at the foodbank once a month then you
see something or other "EVERY TUES AND THURSDAY." Which is it?

So excuse me if it looks like you are playing a bull****ter's game.

Dave

On Aug 31, 2:30*pm, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-08-31 14:53:10 -0400, MajorOz said:





On Aug 31, 1:46*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Aug 31, 6:55*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
jeff wrote:
"And where, in all of this, are the responsible Republicans, leaders
*who
will stand up and say that some partisans are going too far? Nowhere
*to
be found."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/op....html?_r=1&src
=me&...

Oh, OK...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...10/08/26/AR201..
..

Where, in all of this, are the responsible adults, the Bill Bradleys,
*Bob Doles,
Pat Moynihans and Bill Buckleys...

I was with you right up until Bill Buckley, "responsible" is one of
the last words I'd ever use to describe Buckley. Reactionary works.

As for Krauthammer's pathetic whining it is to laugh. His premise
is that 60% of the American people cannot be racists or bigots.
That sounds like some of the same silly **** that comes from your
home planet. If you read Krauthammer regularly you know that he
himself is an Islamophobe and a religious bigot. He incites bigotry
and religious hatred in his columns so his whining on the subject
is like an arsonist complaining about the smell of smoke in the
neighborhood.

--
Ken Fortenberry

He is a very nasty person, has seen little of normal life or the
world, a shrink-too bigoted to be licenced anymore IMHO, an advocate
of ethnic cleansing, I believe history will show that he has been an
agent of a foreign government for at least 20 years. His rabid hatred
for Arabs and Muslims and non-whites is an increasing embarrassment.
The most bizarre irony is that he served in the Carter administration
and was a speech writer for Mondale.

I personally believe that his disablement and physical pain was a
major cause of his turn to hatred and bitterness. His association with
former Trotskyite communists- relabeled as "Neo Conservatives" is well
documented, as is his support and association with the American branch
of the Likud Party, the successor political branch of the fascist
terrorist group "Irgun/Stern Gang" which murdered hundreds of Arab
civilians and British citizens thru the 1940-50s.

...not to mention that school for mutant children he operates outside
Philly......

oz

snort, chortle, pfttttttt all over my keyboard.

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You need to keep your stories straight Dave. Don't try to bull**** a
bull****ter. Here is what you said on Aug 31st....

" OBAMA'S NAME NEVER COMES INTO THE CONVERSATION."
Then you go into your standard diatribe and it is hard to determine
what is real and what is not.


And didn't you say . . .
"Obama's name doesnt come into the conversation. They are ****ed at
what this country has become, and it sure as hell isn't their fauls."

But, hey on Aug 30th you said this. . .

"The blacks and Puerto Ricans at the food pantry shake their heads
when YOU MENTION HIS NAME. THEY are ****ed at him for doing nothing
except talk, talk, talk, and taking multiple vacations they can only
dream
of. And the newly unemployed are down right outraged at him. I see
it
every Tues and Thursday. "

So hold on Dave which is it? On Aug 31st you say the foodbank folks
don't
mention Obama, and you don't mention Obama, BUT ON AUG 30 YOU SAID YOU
DO MENTION HIS NAME. In one post you are at the foodbank once a month
but in another you say you see something or other "EVERY TUES AND
THURSDAY." Which is it? Please entertain us with an attempt to explain
these little details, so essential to your rant, away. Don't try to
bull**** a bull****ter, Dave

So excuse me if it looks like you are playing a bull****ter's game.
And let me point out that your little chortle put you in the camp of
someone (Mr. K) who was a part of the orchestrated cover up of the
murder of 37 American intelligence personnel on the USS Liberty.
Strange company David.

Dave of the Jungle

On 2010-09-05 00:53:14 -0400, DaveS said:

You need to keep your stories straight Dave. Don't try to bull**** a
bull****ter. Here is what you said on Aug 31st....

" OBAMA'S NAME NEVER COMES INTO THE CONVERSATION."
Then you go into your standard diatribe and it is hard to determine
what is real and what is not.

And didn't you say . . .
"Obama's name doesnt come into the conversation. They are ****ed at
what this country has become, and it sure as hell isn't their fauls."

But, hey then you said this. . .

"The blacks and Puerto Ricans at the food pantry shake their heads
when
YOU MENTION HIS NAME. THEY are ****ed at him for doing nothing
except
talk, talk, talk, and taking multiple vacations they can only dream
of.
And the newly unemployed are down right outraged at him. I see it
every Tues and Thursday. "

So hold on Dave which is it? First you say the foodbank folks don't
mention Obama, and you don't mention Obama, THEN YOU SAY YOU DO
MENTION HIS NAME. First you are at the foodbank once a month then you
see something or other "EVERY TUES AND THURSDAY." Which is it?

So excuse me if it looks like you are playing a bull****ter's game.

Dave

Whatever. They are still ****ed. Most people ARE ****ed. He
over-promised and under-produced. He is a failure and has helped on
the union thugs. Everything from the U.S. Gov is down. Very little
USDA meats (hamburger, chicken, turkey, sausage). Our freezers are
empty. This guy has helped everyone except those that need it, and
they *are* ****ed. The unions don't need help - they manage to be
corrupt without him. The little guy needs help and he isn't getting it
from Obama.

Dave

Forgot to add: I am there every Tues and Thursday. However, I see the
individuals/friends only once a month, since they are allowed only one
visit per month. They get about a week's worth of food each visit.
There are four other pantries in Lowell they can visit *once a month*.
So, they get by. But, like I said, the cut backs in USDA (I have
mistakenly called it FDA) have resulted in less (sometimes NO) meat.
Since all the pantries get their food from the same source, the cut
backs have been devistating. Old Mother Hubbard.....

They also get clothes, blankets, towels, toys, etc donated by individuals.

Dave

On 2010-09-05 01:29:19 -0400, DaveS said:

You need to keep your stories straight Dave. Don't try to bull**** a
bull****ter. Here is what you said on Aug 31st....

" OBAMA'S NAME NEVER COMES INTO THE CONVERSATION."
Then you go into your standard diatribe and it is hard to determine
what is real and what is not.


And didn't you say . . .
"Obama's name doesnt come into the conversation. They are ****ed at
what this country has become, and it sure as hell isn't their fauls."

But, hey on Aug 30th you said this. . .

"The blacks and Puerto Ricans at the food pantry shake their heads
when YOU MENTION HIS NAME. THEY are ****ed at him for doing nothing
except talk, talk, talk, and taking multiple vacations they can only
dream
of. And the newly unemployed are down right outraged at him. I see
it
every Tues and Thursday. "

So hold on Dave which is it? On Aug 31st you say the foodbank folks
don't
mention Obama, and you don't mention Obama, BUT ON AUG 30 YOU SAID YOU
DO MENTION HIS NAME. In one post you are at the foodbank once a month
but in another you say you see something or other "EVERY TUES AND
THURSDAY." Which is it? Please entertain us with an attempt to explain
these little details, so essential to your rant, away. Don't try to
bull**** a bull****ter, Dave

See my previous posts this a.m.

So excuse me if it looks like you are playing a bull****ter's game.
And let me point out that your little chortle put you in the camp of
someone (Mr. K) who was a part of the orchestrated cover up of the
murder of 37 American intelligence personnel on the USS Liberty.
Strange company David.

What OZ said was funny. Sorry. It WAS hilarious.

Dave of the Jungle

Don't forget your fiddle while you're in that jungle, Dave, and please
continue to play it while your beloved country sinks even lower.
Fiddle while we spend our way to prosperity. Spendspendspend.
Fiddlefiddlefiddle.

Dave

On Sep 5, 4:51*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
Forgot to add: *I am there every Tues and Thursday. *However, I see the
individuals/friends only once a month, since they are allowed only one
visit per month. *They get about a week's worth of food each visit. *
There are four other pantries in Lowell they can visit *once a month*. *
So, they get by. *But, like I said, the cut backs in USDA (I have
mistakenly called it FDA) have resulted in less (sometimes NO) meat. *
Since all the pantries get their food from the same source, the cut
backs have been devistating. *Old Mother Hubbard.....

They also get clothes, blankets, towels, toys, etc donated by individuals..

Dave

But apparently YOU do "mention Obama" while you hand out the food,
don't you, even though you said you didn't? Or maybe that is an
oversight in this post and you are going to "clarify?" Yeah, that's
the ticket . . . an "OVERSIGHT." A mis-speak. Sure. Marginally
plausible.

But wow I am impressed. How do you do it? "EVERY" Tuesday and
Thursday, . . . that would be 104 days, right? See it is a wonder to
me how you make it back to the food bank with all that fishing you do?
What is it? 100+ fishing days right? And who covers for you when you
are at the other place down South? But of course you could have a
special personal definition of "EVERY," right?

And in fairness there are those holidays, and sick days, weekends and
all that time in your magic helicopter, cigarette boat and your
HATEAMERICAMOBILE that gets you there EVERY Tuesday and Thursday so
you can bad-mouth Obama at your local foodbank while you hand out
food, toys and blankets to all those Blacks and Puerto Ricans in
Lowell where your survey shows everybody hates Obama. You are fast and
a work and a wonder lad.

You could could probably write a book on philanthropy. It could
certainly clear up the research findings that show that people in your
putative income category give a little more than half the percentage
of their income to "charity" that working and middle-income people
give, that upper income people are very prone to use scams and make
believe to claim deductions, and mostly DO NOT give to private
charities that serve the poor and disabled. Here is your opportunity
to break the mold so why don't you go out and buy some meat for those
folk? Show them just how much better a man you are than that Obama
fellow.

Dave of the Jungle

On Sep 5, 11:51*am, DaveS wrote:
On Sep 5, 4:51*am, D. LaCourse wrote:

Forgot to add: *I am there every Tues and Thursday. *However, I see the
individuals/friends only once a month, since they are allowed only one
visit per month. *They get about a week's worth of food each visit. *
There are four other pantries in Lowell they can visit *once a month*. *
So, they get by. *But, like I said, the cut backs in USDA (I have
mistakenly called it FDA) have resulted in less (sometimes NO) meat. *
Since all the pantries get their food from the same source, the cut
backs have been devistating. *Old Mother Hubbard.....

They also get clothes, blankets, towels, toys, etc donated by individuals.

Dave

But apparently YOU do "mention Obama" while you hand out the food,
don't you, even though you said you didn't? Or maybe that is an
oversight in this post and you are going to "clarify?" Yeah, that's
the ticket . . . an "OVERSIGHT." A mis-speak. Sure. Marginally
plausible.

But wow I am impressed. How do you do it? "EVERY" Tuesday and
Thursday, . . . *that would be 104 days, right? See it is a wonder to
me how you make it back to the food bank with all that fishing you do?
What is it? 100+ fishing days right? And who covers for you when you
are at the other place down South? *But of course you could have a
special personal definition of "EVERY," right?

And in fairness there are those holidays, and sick days, weekends and
all that time in your magic helicopter, cigarette boat and your
HATEAMERICAMOBILE that gets you there EVERY Tuesday and Thursday so
you can bad-mouth Obama at your local foodbank while you hand out
food, toys and blankets to all those Blacks and Puerto Ricans in
Lowell where your survey shows everybody hates Obama. You are fast and
a work and a wonder lad.

You could could probably write a book on philanthropy. It could
certainly clear up the research findings that show that people in your
putative income category give a little more than half the percentage
of their income to "charity" that working and middle-income people
give, that upper income people are very prone to use scams and make
believe to claim deductions, and mostly DO NOT give to private
charities that serve the poor and disabled. Here is your opportunity
to break the mold so why don't you go out and buy some meat for those
folk? Show them just how much better a man you are than that Obama
fellow.

Dave of the Jungle

Why is this bitter old man going on and on about someone who donates
time ?

What are his possible motivations ?

Could it be............no it couldn't be.........The Spanish
Inquisition ???

.....or just "Hey, you kids; get off the grass" ?

oz

On Sep 5, 10:18*am, MajorOz wrote:
On Sep 5, 11:51*am, DaveS wrote:





On Sep 5, 4:51*am, D. LaCourse wrote:

Forgot to add: *I am there every Tues and Thursday. *However, I see the
individuals/friends only once a month, since they are allowed only one
visit per month. *They get about a week's worth of food each visit. *
There are four other pantries in Lowell they can visit *once a month*.. *
So, they get by. *But, like I said, the cut backs in USDA (I have
mistakenly called it FDA) have resulted in less (sometimes NO) meat. *
Since all the pantries get their food from the same source, the cut
backs have been devistating. *Old Mother Hubbard.....

They also get clothes, blankets, towels, toys, etc donated by individuals.

Dave

But apparently YOU do "mention Obama" while you hand out the food,
don't you, even though you said you didn't? Or maybe that is an
oversight in this post and you are going to "clarify?" Yeah, that's
the ticket . . . an "OVERSIGHT." A mis-speak. Sure. Marginally
plausible.

But wow I am impressed. How do you do it? "EVERY" Tuesday and
Thursday, . . . *that would be 104 days, right? See it is a wonder to
me how you make it back to the food bank with all that fishing you do?
What is it? 100+ fishing days right? And who covers for you when you
are at the other place down South? *But of course you could have a
special personal definition of "EVERY," right?

And in fairness there are those holidays, and sick days, weekends and
all that time in your magic helicopter, cigarette boat and your
HATEAMERICAMOBILE that gets you there EVERY Tuesday and Thursday so
you can bad-mouth Obama at your local foodbank while you hand out
food, toys and blankets to all those Blacks and Puerto Ricans in
Lowell where your survey shows everybody hates Obama. You are fast and
a work and a wonder lad.

You could could probably write a book on philanthropy. It could
certainly clear up the research findings that show that people in your
putative income category give a little more than half the percentage
of their income to "charity" that working and middle-income people
give, that upper income people are very prone to use scams and make
believe to claim deductions, and mostly DO NOT give to private
charities that serve the poor and disabled. Here is your opportunity
to break the mold so why don't you go out and buy some meat for those
folk? Show them just how much better a man you are than that Obama
fellow.

Dave of the Jungle

Why is this bitter old man going on and on about someone who donates
time ?

What are his possible motivations ?

Could it be............no it couldn't be.........The Spanish
Inquisition ???

....or just "Hey, you kids; get off the grass" ?

oz- Hide quoted text -

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Really? You still don't get it? Try this one. . .
Unlike you apparently, I can still smell bull**** when I hear it.
Maybe you are too young, too math challenged, or snout damaged or just
too partisan to recognize the whiff. But hey, if it so pleases you,
go enjoy the bull**** shower.

Dave

On 2010-09-05 12:51:26 -0400, DaveS said:

On Sep 5, 4:51*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
Forgot to add: *I am there every Tues and Thursday. *However, I see t
he
individuals/friends only once a month, since they are allowed only one
visit per month. *They get about a week's worth of food each visit. *
There are four other pantries in Lowell they can visit *once a month*.
*
So, they get by. *But, like I said, the cut backs in USDA (I have
mistakenly called it FDA) have resulted in less (sometimes NO) meat. *
Since all the pantries get their food from the same source, the cut
backs have been devistating. *Old Mother Hubbard.....

They also get clothes, blankets, towels, toys, etc donated by individuals
.

Dave

But apparently YOU do "mention Obama" while you hand out the food,
don't you, even though you said you didn't? Or maybe that is an
oversight in this post and you are going to "clarify?" Yeah, that's
the ticket . . . an "OVERSIGHT." A mis-speak. Sure. Marginally
plausible.

Obama's name *has* come up, but the conversations about how the country
is going into the toilet are not about him. People are ****ed, David,
whether you believe it or not. Obama has over-promised and
under-delivered. PERIOD.
And I don't talk to them when I "hand out the food". It is usually
before. There are two teams working packing the food. I pause many
times in the three to four hours I am there and talk to people, usually
when I pass out bananas or cookies to those waiting to "log in". I
don't mention or blame Obama. I don't have to. These folks see enough
on tv of his promises, spending, and solving of problems. He promises
and spends well. He solves terribly, however.

But wow I am impressed. How do you do it? "EVERY" Tuesday and
Thursday, . . . that would be 104 days, right? See it is a wonder to
me how you make it back to the food bank with all that fishing you do?

I work every Tues and Thursday when I am in Mass and not fishing. Stop
parsing my words. And, yeah, I fish about 100 days a year. So what?
Jealous? Envious? TS! If I fish locally I usually do it on Mondays.
Jo and I are headed to Maine next Sunday. I'll think of you. Your
savior president can take six vactions in a year, but I go fishing and
you have trouble with it. Too funny.

What is it? 100+ fishing days right? And who covers for you when you
are at the other place down South?

No one covers for me when we go south. This is the *first* year we
have gone south. There are enough workers to move around on different
days.

But of course you could have a
special personal definition of "EVERY," right?

OK, read this and digest it: I work every Tuesday and Thursday while I
am in Massachusetts and not fly fishing in Maine. Got that? Good!
When I am in Georgia I obviously can't work in a food pantry on Lowell.
I do, however, deliver Meals on Wheels for White County, Georgia,
*every* Tuesday that I am *in* Georgia. Ya got that straight, Nero?

And in fairness there are those holidays, and sick days, weekends and
all that time in your magic helicopter, cigarette boat and your
HATEAMERICAMOBILE that gets you there EVERY Tuesday and Thursday so
you can bad-mouth Obama at your local foodbank while you hand out
food, toys and blankets to a
hows everybody hates Obama. You are fast and
a work and a wonder lad.

Man, you are one bitter sob, David. You need to fiddle harder.

You could could probably write a book on philanthropy. It could
certainly clear up the research findings that show that people in your
putative income category give a little more than half the percentage
of their income to "charity" that working and middle-income people
give, that upper income people are very prone to use scams and make
believe to claim deductions, and mostly DO NOT give to private
charities that serve the poor and disabled. Here is your opportunity
to break the mold so why don't you go out and buy some meat for those
folk? Show them just how much better a man you are than that Obama
fellow.

I;m betting that I give a helluva lot more of my time, treasures, and
talent to the needy than you do, David, so stop making fun of it all.
There is nothing funny about what is happening to these people, and it
shows that you couldn't give a **** how they live or turn out. So,
****you very much. Live in your ivory tower and fiddlefiddlefiddle.


Dave of the Jungle

Dave of the asphalt jungle