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  #31  
Old February 11th, 2011, 02:35 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Tim J.
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jeff typed:
On 2/9/2011 8:02 PM, jeff wrote:
On 2/9/2011 2:05 PM, Ken Fortenberry wrote:
flebow wrote:
Any interest?

This would be a good opportunity to finally put to rest the
Fawn Lake rumor.

What we need is an expedition equipped with GPS devices and
digital cameras.

Any volunteers ? Jeffie ?


if you agree to show up, and we have at least one other disinterested
person accompany us to record and report the event...sure, i'm in.

how about a bet? i say and bet there's a fawn lake. you say and bet
it doesn't exist. loser pays the other's roundtrip airfare to
bozeman, buys the night's meal and beer in the park, and makes a
public statement on roff admitting the other person was right about
fawn lake. i think i can walk us to the lake without a gps...it's
just beyond the backcountry campground...but bring your gps. don't
worry, i'll have a camera. gotta have a photo of you at the lake.
we'll get warren to come along too. we can fish two small brookie
streams and the lake. @ 12 miles roundtrip as i recall. i'm old, and
i'm miserably out of shape...this will give me another reason to get
fit.


since the bet has been avoided... here's a link sent to me by a
friend...
http://www.yellowstone.co/lakes/fawn.htm


You DO realize you're being tweaked by the master-tweaker, right? ;-)
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TL,
Tim


  #32  
Old February 11th, 2011, 04:21 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"flebow" wrote in message
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:43:15 -0800, "JT"
wrote:



"flebow" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:18:39 -0500, D. LaCourse
wrote:

On 2011-02-09 13:56:46 -0500, flebow said:

Any interest?

July? I'd be interested depending on where in MT.

Dave

We have a magical piecm of land that I would like to share w many of
you
We have room for 6-8 people in our cabin = barn appt and a room in our
hse
If women come they would be happy and comfortable -

Dogs galore!

Methinks The rivers will be blown out any earlier - Any comments from
otghers pleae???

One would have to fly in to Glacier Int'l AP
and then after a day of rest and fishing for non angler wary large
rainbows
Rules are
respect the land and lake abd watch your trash
2 atunsten shot only- IWe have it for all
No organic substances in the lake
No felt soles or other boats besides our 3
Barbless and mainly
C & R
No females to be killed- We may have another 2 yrs on ours at $8.99
per fish

We can kill an older male oor 2 and smoke him for our trip
We would have to drive down south
I am sorry no goats
Joanne made me promise to get rid of them and to never have any more
goats after our 2 nubian females ate her garden.
We have the North and Middle Fork of the Flathead River here and the
Bob Marshall wilderness but the best fishing is closer to and in
Yellowstone 8- 8 HR drive w a stop in Bozeman - a cool town
I woudl imagine that you allrefer your own but we have a few backup
5-6 wts

Again Just a thought...

I need to plan the trip back East soon
Dave
I will let you know

Fred


What town is closest to your home?

Might be cool that have another clave central near Rock Creek or the
Bitterroot, which would give a multitude of options for a 7 - 10 day
clave?

JT




Kalispell is the closest city and Glacier Int'l

7-10 days is OK by I have 3 fruemnds that want to go to Yellow stone
We were supposed to go last yr
But I got real sick (cold) in Sept
I would take my truck w full cab and a camper top or I may buy a slide
in camper
We would have to rent some cars.
Or meet some prople
I would like to go nto Yellowstine & not go out for aweek

Where are you?
I think that we both know Rock Creek well.
Fred


I'm 40 miles north of Spokane... Not sure I will be able to do more than a
few days myself. A trip to the Missoula area is easy for a weekend plus a
couple day trip. Yellowstone might be a stretch given the time
consideration. If you want to do a Yellowstone clave, definitely go for it
though.

JT


  #33  
Old February 11th, 2011, 04:49 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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Tim J. wrote:
jeff typed:
since the bet has been avoided...


You DO realize you're being tweaked by the master-tweaker, right? ;-)


I suppose we're still looking for volunteers with cameras *AND*
GPS units to settle the Fawn Lake rumor. You will remember that
no one has ever been photographed standing in or around the
alleged Fawn Lake while at the same time displaying their GPS
coordinates to the camera. Given that this rumor has been floating
around for several years now I find that lack of documentation
more than just a little suspicious. Don't you ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

  #34  
Old February 11th, 2011, 05:44 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:21:22 -0800, "JT"
wrote:



"flebow" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:43:15 -0800, "JT"
wrote:



"flebow" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:18:39 -0500, D. LaCourse
wrote:

On 2011-02-09 13:56:46 -0500, flebow said:

Any interest?

July? I'd be interested depending on where in MT.

Dave

We have a magical piecm of land that I would like to share w many of
you
We have room for 6-8 people in our cabin = barn appt and a room in our
hse
If women come they would be happy and comfortable -

Dogs galore!

Methinks The rivers will be blown out any earlier - Any comments from
otghers pleae???

One would have to fly in to Glacier Int'l AP
and then after a day of rest and fishing for non angler wary large
rainbows
Rules are
respect the land and lake abd watch your trash
2 atunsten shot only- IWe have it for all
No organic substances in the lake
No felt soles or other boats besides our 3
Barbless and mainly
C & R
No females to be killed- We may have another 2 yrs on ours at $8.99
per fish

We can kill an older male oor 2 and smoke him for our trip
We would have to drive down south
I am sorry no goats
Joanne made me promise to get rid of them and to never have any more
goats after our 2 nubian females ate her garden.
We have the North and Middle Fork of the Flathead River here and the
Bob Marshall wilderness but the best fishing is closer to and in
Yellowstone 8- 8 HR drive w a stop in Bozeman - a cool town
I woudl imagine that you allrefer your own but we have a few backup
5-6 wts

Again Just a thought...

I need to plan the trip back East soon
Dave
I will let you know

Fred


What town is closest to your home?

Might be cool that have another clave central near Rock Creek or the
Bitterroot, which would give a multitude of options for a 7 - 10 day
clave?

JT




Kalispell is the closest city and Glacier Int'l

7-10 days is OK by I have 3 fruemnds that want to go to Yellow stone
We were supposed to go last yr
But I got real sick (cold) in Sept
I would take my truck w full cab and a camper top or I may buy a slide
in camper
We would have to rent some cars.
Or meet some prople
I would like to go nto Yellowstine & not go out for aweek

Where are you?
I think that we both know Rock Creek well.
Fred


I'm 40 miles north of Spokane... Not sure I will be able to do more than a
few days myself. A trip to the Missoula area is easy for a weekend plus a
couple day trip. Yellowstone might be a stretch given the time
consideration. If you want to do a Yellowstone clave, definitely go for it
though.

JT

We are a bit SWW of Kalispell
So you are about 3 hrs from us

I will dio Yellow Stobne anyway but IO do not see too many people
serious about going
I am going to Yellow stone w frends anyway

FL

  #35  
Old February 11th, 2011, 05:44 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Feb 11, 9:49*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

no one has ever been photographed standing in or around the
alleged Fawn Lake while at the same time displaying their GPS
coordinates to the camera. Given that this rumor has been floating
around for several years now I find that lack of documentation
more than just a little suspicious. Don't you ?


1) There are GPS coordinates on the map on Jeff's link. Plus a
satellite image with trails marked. Is it or is it not the location of
(what you call) Fawn Lake?

2) Anyone who has looked at even a few satellite images would
recognize a body of water. The lake is full in the picture.

3) As far as I can tell, a little tab in the lower left seems to
indicate the picture was taken in 1994? Assuming you answer yes to
(1), are you contending that it has since dried up?

Or is this some vast conspiracy...like the faked moon landings?

Curious minds want to know.

Jon.
(Personally, my best _logical_ explanation is that you indeed did see
it after perhaps a few years of drought and it _was_ hardly there, and
that others visited it after it returned to a status like that in the
picture...but then who ever said there must be a logical explanation
for this particular roffian spat?)
  #36  
Old February 11th, 2011, 06:28 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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Jonathan Cook wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
no one has ever been photographed standing in or around the
alleged Fawn Lake while at the same time displaying their GPS
coordinates to the camera. Given that this rumor has been floating
around for several years now I find that lack of documentation
more than just a little suspicious. Don't you ?


1) There are GPS coordinates on the map on Jeff's link. Plus a
satellite image with trails marked. Is it or is it not the location of
(what you call) Fawn Lake?

2) Anyone who has looked at even a few satellite images would
recognize a body of water. The lake is full in the picture.

3) As far as I can tell, a little tab in the lower left seems to
indicate the picture was taken in 1994? Assuming you answer yes to
(1), are you contending that it has since dried up?

Or is this some vast conspiracy...like the faked moon landings?

Curious minds want to know.


That is not really a lake. It just looks like a lake from certain
angles. Like I said, I have never seen a photograph of the so-called
Fawn Lake *AND* the GPS coordinates in the same frame. You'd think
that after all the roffian expeditions undertaken to *prove* this
rumor of a lake exists that someone would have thought to display
the GPS coordinates. Sounds fishy to me.

--
Ken Fortenberry
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Old February 11th, 2011, 06:50 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Feb 11, 11:28*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

That is not really a lake. It just looks like a lake from certain
angles. Like I said, I have never seen a photograph of the so-called
Fawn Lake *AND* the GPS coordinates in the same frame. You'd think
that after all the roffian expeditions undertaken to *prove* this
rumor of a lake exists that someone would have thought to display
the GPS coordinates. Sounds fishy to me.

--
Ken Fortenberry


If someone DID post a photo of Fawn Lake *AND* the GPS coordinates
you'd merely claim it a fake.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 09:49 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 2/11/2011 1:52 PM, Tim J. wrote:

If someone DID post a photo of Fawn Lake *AND* the GPS coordinates
you'd merely claim it a fake.


Yeah, but since having them go through the exercise over and over again is
the goal, it kinda makes sense, right?


I'm starting to wonder if someone out there is paying a commission for
every tourist traveling the trail down to Fawn Lake. Somehow, Forty must
have to be getting a cut of the action.

Tom

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Old February 11th, 2011, 11:28 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Feb 10, 9:25*pm, jeff wrote:
On 2/10/2011 9:24 PM, Giles wrote:





On Feb 10, 6:19 pm, *wrote:
On 2/10/2011 5:40 PM, Giles wrote:


Speaking of brookies, I heard a bit of a program on climate change on
public radio yesterday. *Best guess predictions based on current best
bet climatological models are that coulee country could well lose
anywhere from 30 to 90 percent of its brook trout suitable habitat in
the next half century or so. *I say **** a bunch of Fawn Lake and get
back up here in early June. *Deluxe accommodations. Home cooked
meals......and everything you ever wanted to hear about chestnut,
walnut, butternut, hickory, hazel, etc......all at no extra charge.
Hiking available on request.....if you insist.


sounds great...i'll need to see what's happening hereabouts first as i
have a 2 week trip planned in march, and a bit of home construction - an
addition to the house - beginning soon, which is guaranteed contractor
hell.


One could say, "think of it as an adventure!", * * * *


but then, one has heard that said to bone marrow transplant
recipients.....and donors. * * *


but, for pre-planning and full-of-hope, good intention purposes,
what's the nearest airport...milwaukee?


La Crosse (LAX), about 25 miles down the road. *Nice view of the
father of waters on the approach.....not to mention on landing.


Not a "major" airport by any stretch of the imagination, but it
definitely has regularly scheduled flights to and from Milwaukee and
Minneapolis (the latter being marginally closer and perhaps a bit
cheaper) and probably Detroit and Chicago as well, though I haven't
actually checked on the latter two.


In any case, Milwaukee and Minneapolis are the closest major airports
and are about equidistant from Sparta at roughly 3 hours' drive, and
would probably represent a substantial savings over flying directly
into La Crosse. *Either way is a nice enough drive.....in
daylight.....otherwise its just a three hour drive. *Not a problem.


giles
who has never actually experienced it himself, but supposes that
landing in/on/next to one of the world's great rivers has a certain
charm all its own.....at leat at this time of year when, in these
latitudes, it essentially completely frozen over. * * *


having never seen a full grown chestnut tree, and as an admirer of the
coulee country streams (at least to the extent my weak grey matter
allows a recollection - i do remember an apparition, a log that
miraculously became a fish - and, trout that shared a universe with
cows...well, i'm on go if it can be fashioned from the rough fabric that
usually envelopes me. another trip to wisconsin seems a worthy
adventure...not to ignore or minimize your own good company (and
cooking). it would be excellent luck to see joel and george and becky
and...well...june is a lifetime from now, and one i hope to live. *i'll
start checking flight schedules and costs. you start checking on the
spotted cow...

jeff


Many of the trees have succumed to the chryphonectria, and we find
more infected individuals all the time. However, there are still
plenty of apparently healthy adult trees left. You'll be impressed by
how rapidly they grow.

The log that became a fish was, most appropriately, in Timber Coulee.
A recent acquaintance showed me a photo of a fish his young son caught
(on a worm) in a stream not far from there (or from some other waters
we sampled.....or from here, fot that matter) a couple of years ago.
Brown trout.....29 inches.

I'll make an announcement of some sort in a couple of week.....after
I've had some time to think about logistics. We'll see who we can
dredge up.

giles
 




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