first day with orvis waders

From: daytripper

On Thu, 06 May 2004 21:26:35 GMT, Steve Sullivan wrote:

Cons: A big one, the knee patch's have a slit on the front that allows
water to fill up the whole patch. VERY VERY annoying. I hope Orvis
fixes this "design".

I've been using Silver Labels for a few years now. I noticed those openings,
but I don't ever recall any measurable amount of water holding behind the
patches once I've hauled out of the stream.

In fact I believe they are there
specifically to avoid water being retained behind the patches - and that
still
seems to have been a good design decision to me.


Yup, the slit is there to allow the water to drain. Haven't had a problem with
mine.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

Cons: A big one, the knee patch's have a slit on the front that allows
water to fill up the whole patch. VERY VERY annoying. I hope Orvis
fixes this "design".

I've been using Silver Labels for a few years now. I noticed those openings,
but I don't ever recall any measurable amount of water holding behind the
patches once I've hauled out of the stream.

In fact I believe they are there
specifically to avoid water being retained behind the patches - and that
still
seems to have been a good design decision to me.


Yup, the slit is there to allow the water to drain. Haven't had a problem with
mine.

If you have "thick" legs, the slits tend to act like a dam. A
little adjustment does the trick!

On 06 May 2004 22:41:36 GMT, ojunk (George Adams) wrote:

From: daytripper

On Thu, 06 May 2004 21:26:35 GMT, Steve Sullivan wrote:

Cons: A big one, the knee patch's have a slit on the front that allows
water to fill up the whole patch. VERY VERY annoying. I hope Orvis
fixes this "design".

I've been using Silver Labels for a few years now. I noticed those openings,
but I don't ever recall any measurable amount of water holding behind the
patches once I've hauled out of the stream.

In fact I believe they are there
specifically to avoid water being retained behind the patches - and that
still
seems to have been a good design decision to me.


Yup, the slit is there to allow the water to drain. Haven't had a problem with
mine.

It just dawned on me that perhaps Mr. Sullivan's waders have the knee patches
sewn on up-side-down, so that the "v" notch is above the knee instead of
below.

If that's the case, I can see how they could fill up and retain water out of
the stream, which might even rise to the level of "aggravating"...

/daytripper (...and if it is the case, take 'em back for a replacement...)

In article ,
daytripper wrote:

It just dawned on me that perhaps Mr. Sullivan's waders have the knee patches
sewn on up-side-down, so that the "v" notch is above the knee instead of
below.

If that's the case, I can see how they could fill up and retain water out of
the stream, which might even rise to the level of "aggravating"...

/daytripper (...and if it is the case, take 'em back for a replacement...)

Nope, the slit is on the bottom of the patch. The problem is the space
gets completely filled with water, which adds a considerable ammount of
weight, and being in the water for several hours having to wade around
with it is kind of a pain. I will probably just send them back and get
the pro guides, which I have been told dont retain water.

On Fri, 07 May 2004 02:46:52 GMT, Steve Sullivan wrote:

In article ,
daytripper wrote:

It just dawned on me that perhaps Mr. Sullivan's waders have the knee patches
sewn on up-side-down, so that the "v" notch is above the knee instead of
below.

If that's the case, I can see how they could fill up and retain water out of
the stream, which might even rise to the level of "aggravating"...

/daytripper (...and if it is the case, take 'em back for a replacement...)

Nope, the slit is on the bottom of the patch. The problem is the space
gets completely filled with water, which adds a considerable ammount of
weight, and being in the water for several hours having to wade around
with it is kind of a pain.

Interesting. For the years I've been using them, I've never noticed this as
being an issue, but perhaps I'm not the most sensitive guy around ;-)

I will probably just send them back and get the pro guides, which
I have been told dont retain water.

Let us know how you make out with them if you do...

/daytripper

I just tried the Pro Guide 2 stocking foot waders on the water, as an
upgrade from Silver Label lace-up boot foots I have used for years. General
observations:

My Silver Labels (old style, not SL2's) also have the knee patch that fills
with water - annoying at first, but no big deal in the long run. I was told
by someone at Orvis that the knee patch provides the extra durability of 5
layer breathable fabric, without the cost. The Silver Label lace-up boot
foot waders were extremely uncomfortable on my feet to the point that I
could hardly walk at the end of the day (I have extremely flat feet, and
this may be the cause). Mine are also rather baggy, (something they say they
have corrected on the new SL2's), but that works well when layering up for
Steelhead fishing.

The Pro Guide 2's are great. The bagginess is gone, the handwarmer pocket is
very nice, the ergonomically shaped booties fit very nicely, two wading belt
pockets, no sewn-on knee patch, very handy suspender latches, and a handy
tippet spool pouch. The material seems heavier to me than the Silver Label
material, but it could just be the newness. Overall, I am very pleased.

HTH,

Jim Ray

"daytripper" wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 May 2004 02:46:52 GMT, Steve Sullivan wrote:

In article ,
daytripper wrote:

It just dawned on me that perhaps Mr. Sullivan's waders have the knee
patches
sewn on up-side-down, so that the "v" notch is above the knee instead
of
below.

If that's the case, I can see how they could fill up and retain water
out of
the stream, which might even rise to the level of "aggravating"...

/daytripper (...and if it is the case, take 'em back for a
replacement...)

Nope, the slit is on the bottom of the patch. The problem is the space
gets completely filled with water, which adds a considerable ammount of
weight, and being in the water for several hours having to wade around
with it is kind of a pain.

Interesting. For the years I've been using them, I've never noticed this
as
being an issue, but perhaps I'm not the most sensitive guy around ;-)

I will probably just send them back and get the pro guides, which
I have been told dont retain water.

Let us know how you make out with them if you do...

/daytripper

In article ,
ojunk (George Adams) wrote:

From: daytripper

On Thu, 06 May 2004 21:26:35 GMT, Steve Sullivan wrote:

Cons: A big one, the knee patch's have a slit on the front that allows
water to fill up the whole patch. VERY VERY annoying. I hope Orvis
fixes this "design".

I've been using Silver Labels for a few years now. I noticed those openings,
but I don't ever recall any measurable amount of water holding behind the
patches once I've hauled out of the stream.

In fact I believe they are there
specifically to avoid water being retained behind the patches - and that
still
seems to have been a good design decision to me.


Yup, the slit is there to allow the water to drain. Haven't had a problem with
mine.

You are right, once I get out of the water they drain no problem. The
problem is having to wade around with a big heavy bunch of water in your
waders. Maybe I will upgrade to the pro guides.

"Steve Sullivan" wrote in message The
problem is having to wade around with a big heavy bunch of water in your
waders. Maybe I will upgrade to the pro guides

So it's heavier than the water surrounding it? The extra resistance must be
what's bugging you.

bruce h