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![]() "Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... Mark writes: My bad, how 'bout this: How long before them grandsons get to go off and fight one of Georgie-boys oil wars? Oil wars? That's not even a "nice" try. Don't forget to get your tinfoil hat cleaned, Opie. I wasn't really goin' for nice, and it really doesn't matter the reason, as long as you continue to help elect these war mongerin' morons your grand kids will have a good chance of dyin' before you do, in a foreign land, not protecting America's but Bush et. al.'s interests. HTH Op |
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![]() "Peter Charles" wrote in message ... As I suspected, the poor states, having relatively lower populations and low mean icomes, are distorted by the donations of the high income earners in those states. This site has the answer in it's spreadsheets of over $200K and all returns. The high income earners in these poor states are amongst the largest givers. That has a disporpotionate effect vs. wealthy states. In high income states, the largest earners don't have the same distorting effects. Too bad they don't have a spreadsheet for the under $200K returns as that would be far more meaningful. It's the problem when mean is used to produce an index like this. Peter Left out of all of this is the time that many people give to charities which isn't deducted from their taxes. Let me see if any conservative time givers come to mind......Nope! What about liberal time givers..........sure enough...Jimmy Carter! Mark |
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![]() "Jonathan Cook" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: Very interesting. Pity they didn't give the rankings of all the states. The link at the bottom did. So it does. Thanks. I see that my own home state, Wisconsin, ranks 46th on the Generosity Index. Also interesting is http://www.onphilanthropy.com/tren_c...002-06-27.html Agreed, that is interesting......and not surprising. However, as Peter pointed out with regard to the Generosity Index, what is clearly implied is not necessarily what is clearly so. In the On Philanthropy column we see the line, "The full report will be released today in New York, but its implications are clear - religious Americans give more of their time and their money than non-religious Americans." But that is only one implication, and the reader is left not knowing whether another subtler one has any basis in fact. Watson states explicitly that "households who give to faith-based charities generally give more overall to all charities...". I'm willing to accept that.....on faith, as it were. The rest of the article goes on to support this thesis, detail where some of this money goes, and explore some of the ramifications of this giving. However, I think Watson has also inserted (and left unsupported) a suggestion that faith based households contribute more to secular organizations than do those who contribute only to such. Wolfgang |
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Charlie Choc wrote:
On 10 Nov 2004 21:55:23 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote: Barnards writes: http://www.selekta.com/map.jpg What is your point, Barnard? Or do you have one. Heard today that the blue states are the least likely states to give to charities. The #1 state, most generous that is, is Mississippi. The least generous? NY, VT, MA, and CT. Says a helluva lot more than a 100 year old map. OK, how about this map: http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm or this one: http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...ates_feed.html or this analysis: http://www2.hawaii.edu/~bergen/bush.html ? g -- IQ common sense College education common sense -- HTH, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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Mark opines:
Let me see if any conservative time givers come to mind......Nope! What about liberal time givers..........sure enough...Jimmy Carter! Wow! You're psychic too. Only problem-- your crystal ball is cracked. I have several conservative friends that travel to Haiti each year (own expense) and help build homes, schools, etc. And, ain't it strange that Jimmy is a Christian? d;o) |
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Charlie Choc:
Yeah, all that data from Bush haters. Duh! |
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:14:29 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote: IQ common sense College education common sense Being dumb or uneducated doesn't guarantee common sense either. So what's your point? g -- Charlie... http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/ |
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Charlie Choc writes:
The IQ data probably, Probably? Bwwwaaahahahaha the other data was from places like the census, the federal register. the Wal-Mart annual repo Sorta makes ya proud to be a cracker from Georgia, eh? |
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