Is it still fly fishing if you use live bait?

My dad used to use a floating fly line to fish night crawlers in Oak Creek
for trout. Presentation, was exactly the same as using a heavy wet fly
otherwise.

I was reading something recently and thining that it would be a good way to
get a little more distance dead sticking a small minnow. (then again maybe
not. That minnow would sure get dried out swinging through the air. LOL.


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www.YumaBassMan.com

Tornament Director
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"Bob La Londe" asked "Is it still fly fishing if you use live bait?

Probably not but who cares? It is lots of fun and very, very effective.

Bob talked about his wise dad then he says:

I was reading something recently and thining that it would be a good way
to get a little more distance dead sticking a small minnow. (then again
maybe not. That minnow would sure get dried out swinging through the air.
LOL.

And, it you substituted one of your little plastic minnows for the live one,
you're back to pure fly fishing. It doesn't make any difference. In fact
personally I'm very interested in what new things ALL bass fishermen are
doing and enjoying.

It may be blasphemy to fly fisherman but my grandson and I are having a
blast with Rodney Long's Wiggle Rig. With Power Pro on a Shamano spin reel
mounted on my 9 1/2 foot 9 weight Loomis fly rod, my grandson has used worms
and plastic minnows to catch bass and bluegill. As a fly fisherman I am
just amazed at how far it throws!!!! It would be a short hop for us to
switch to live bait. Hmmm... You've got me thinking. g

Whoa! Is it still fly fishing if I use plastic worms with a spin reel with
Power Pro instead of a fly reel and fly line? g

Good luck!
John

John wrote:



It may be blasphemy to fly fisherman but my grandson and I are having a
blast with Rodney Long's Wiggle Rig. With Power Pro on a Shamano spin reel
mounted on my 9 1/2 foot 9 weight Loomis fly rod, my grandson has used worms
and plastic minnows to catch bass and bluegill. As a fly fisherman I am
just amazed at how far it throws!!!! It would be a short hop for us to
switch to live bait. Hmmm... You've got me thinking. g

When using "live" minnows on it,, kill them, put the hook through the
mouth, and out the top of their head, it makes them stay on better, and
gives them a much better action that lip hooked, it also works with dead
shad. It's better than just live, because they keep wiggling long after
a minnow would tire, now you have a bait that looks real, smells real,
taste real, and acts like it's injured, and panicked.

Some times you can find small minnows in a jar that have been pickled,
these are awesome, so are frozen shad



--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread,
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com

John wrote:
"Bob La Londe" asked "Is it still fly fishing if you use live bait?

Probably not but who cares? It is lots of fun and very, very effective.

Bob talked about his wise dad then he says:

I was reading something recently and thining that it would be a good way
to get a little more distance dead sticking a small minnow. (then again
maybe not. That minnow would sure get dried out swinging through the air.
LOL.

And, it you substituted one of your little plastic minnows for the live one,
you're back to pure fly fishing.

Fishing with bait isn't fly fishing, it's bait fishing. Fishing
with plastic minnows isn't fly fishing, it's lure fishing.
Fishing with fur and feathers tied to a hook, *that's* fly fishing.
Not that there's anything wrong with using a fly rod to fish any
legal way you want to fish, but fly rod notwithstanding if you
ain't fishing with a fly you ain't fly fishing.

In my ain't never been humble opinion, of course. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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John wrote:
"Bob La Londe" asked "Is it still fly fishing if you use live bait?

Probably not but who cares? It is lots of fun and very, very effective.

Bob talked about his wise dad then he says:

I was reading something recently and thining that it would be a good way
to get a little more distance dead sticking a small minnow. (then again
maybe not. That minnow would sure get dried out swinging through the
air. LOL.

And, it you substituted one of your little plastic minnows for the live
one, you're back to pure fly fishing.

Fishing with bait isn't fly fishing, it's bait fishing. Fishing
with plastic minnows isn't fly fishing, it's lure fishing.
Fishing with fur and feathers tied to a hook, *that's* fly fishing.
Not that there's anything wrong with using a fly rod to fish any
legal way you want to fish, but fly rod notwithstanding if you
ain't fishing with a fly you ain't fly fishing.

In my ain't never been humble opinion, of course. ;-)


Yeah, whatever... from the guy with a bobber on his fly line. Oh, wait you
hoity toity fly guys call that a strike indicator. LOL. :^)


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Bob La Londe - Webmaster
www.YumaBassMan.com

Tornament Director
www.YumaProAm.com



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Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
John wrote:
"Bob La Londe" asked "Is it still fly fishing if you use live bait?

Probably not but who cares? It is lots of fun and very, very effective.

Bob talked about his wise dad then he says:

I was reading something recently and thining that it would be a good way
to get a little more distance dead sticking a small minnow. (then again
maybe not. That minnow would sure get dried out swinging through the
air. LOL.
And, it you substituted one of your little plastic minnows for the live
one, you're back to pure fly fishing.
Fishing with bait isn't fly fishing, it's bait fishing. Fishing
with plastic minnows isn't fly fishing, it's lure fishing.
Fishing with fur and feathers tied to a hook, *that's* fly fishing.
Not that there's anything wrong with using a fly rod to fish any
legal way you want to fish, but fly rod notwithstanding if you
ain't fishing with a fly you ain't fly fishing.

In my ain't never been humble opinion, of course. ;-)


Yeah, whatever... from the guy with a bobber on his fly line. Oh, wait you
hoity toity fly guys call that a strike indicator. LOL. :^)

You're mistaken, Bob. I am definitely not the guy with a
bobber on his fly line. I used a strike indicator exactly
once in my life on the San Juan in New Mexico because the
guide didn't know how to fish any other way. I had to take
a hot shower afterwards to wash off the shame. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

LOL

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
John wrote:
"Bob La Londe" asked "Is it still fly fishing if you use live bait?

Probably not but who cares? It is lots of fun and very, very
effective.

Bob talked about his wise dad then he says:

I was reading something recently and thining that it would be a good
way to get a little more distance dead sticking a small minnow. (then
again maybe not. That minnow would sure get dried out swinging
through the air. LOL.
And, it you substituted one of your little plastic minnows for the live
one, you're back to pure fly fishing.
Fishing with bait isn't fly fishing, it's bait fishing. Fishing
with plastic minnows isn't fly fishing, it's lure fishing.
Fishing with fur and feathers tied to a hook, *that's* fly fishing.
Not that there's anything wrong with using a fly rod to fish any
legal way you want to fish, but fly rod notwithstanding if you
ain't fishing with a fly you ain't fly fishing.

In my ain't never been humble opinion, of course. ;-)


Yeah, whatever... from the guy with a bobber on his fly line. Oh, wait
you hoity toity fly guys call that a strike indicator. LOL. :^)

You're mistaken, Bob. I am definitely not the guy with a
bobber on his fly line. I used a strike indicator exactly
once in my life on the San Juan in New Mexico because the
guide didn't know how to fish any other way. I had to take
a hot shower afterwards to wash off the shame. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
John wrote:
"Bob La Londe" asked "Is it still fly fishing if you use live bait?

Probably not but who cares? It is lots of fun and very, very
effective.

Bob talked about his wise dad then he says:

I was reading something recently and thining that it would be a good
way to get a little more distance dead sticking a small minnow. (then
again maybe not. That minnow would sure get dried out swinging
through the air. LOL.
And, it you substituted one of your little plastic minnows for the live
one, you're back to pure fly fishing.
Fishing with bait isn't fly fishing, it's bait fishing. Fishing
with plastic minnows isn't fly fishing, it's lure fishing.
Fishing with fur and feathers tied to a hook, *that's* fly fishing.
Not that there's anything wrong with using a fly rod to fish any
legal way you want to fish, but fly rod notwithstanding if you
ain't fishing with a fly you ain't fly fishing.

In my ain't never been humble opinion, of course. ;-)


Yeah, whatever... from the guy with a bobber on his fly line. Oh, wait
you hoity toity fly guys call that a strike indicator. LOL. :^)

You're mistaken, Bob. I am definitely not the guy with a
bobber on his fly line. I used a strike indicator exactly
once in my life on the San Juan in New Mexico because the
guide didn't know how to fish any other way. I had to take
a hot shower afterwards to wash off the shame. ;-)


LOL. Well, I can honestly say I have never put a bobber on my fly line. So
there! LOL.

Although I have used a 9'+ fly rod with a spinning reel to serve up minnows
to baulky bass, and I didn't use a bobber. LOL.


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Bob La Londe - Webmaster
www.YumaBassMan.com

Tornament Director
www.YumaProAm.com






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I said:
And, it you substituted one of your little plastic minnows for the live
one, you're back to pure fly fishing.
Well that's wrong. It's not pure fly fishing. Maybe I need to drink more
coffee before posting such gibberishg

And Ken said:

Fishing with bait isn't fly fishing, it's bait fishing. Fishing
with plastic minnows isn't fly fishing, it's lure fishing.
Fishing with fur and feathers tied to a hook, *that's* fly fishing.
Not that there's anything wrong with using a fly rod to fish any
legal way you want to fish, but fly rod notwithstanding if you
ain't fishing with a fly you ain't fly fishing.

Where he pointed out the error of my ways. Can't argue with that. I'm not
going to get into any contest about what is or isn't "fly fishing" - I'll
leave it up to IGFA and othersg.

I'm always changing things, adding stuff, doctoring up materials, messing
around - I'd probably not throw pure plastic or pure anything without adding
paint, metal, fur, glitter, feathers, rubber or something. As long as it
catches bass, I don't care. The line blurs when having legal fun g

Going fishing!
John