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Old February 7th, 2007, 06:15 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Larry L
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It's Spring baetis time ( or will be soon where you are).

This little bug is so important in the waters I most fish that I'm always on
the look out for new patterns based on it. Often, just "something
different" can be a big factor in heavily fished areas, during hatches the
fish get to know well.

Got any favorite but unusual "Blue Winged Olive", just plain "Olive", or
baetis ties ?


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Old February 8th, 2007, 10:19 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Larry L" wrote...

Got any favorite but unusual "Blue Winged Olive", just plain "Olive", or
baetis ties ?


Good pun on the subject line, Larry.

It's certainly not my design, but I've had reasonable luck with a
thread-body BWO, based on this:

http://www.danica.com/flytier/tmodic/twd.htm

Make the color substitutions and have at it. It's a pretty simple tye, too.

For me, the thread body makes tying the really small sizes far easier, and I
think it allows for some semblance of segmentation in the fly as well. When
I try to dub a body smaller than 18 or so, it becomes a blob.

Dan


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Old February 8th, 2007, 10:46 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Daniel-San a écrit :

http://www.danica.com/flytier/tmodic/twd.htm


Nice design, nice web site, thanks for posting. :-)


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Old February 10th, 2007, 04:43 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Larry L" wrote...
Got any favorite but unusual "Blue Winged Olive", just plain "Olive", or
baetis ties ?


I've tried all sorts, but for the 18s and 20s that are most
common around here in the winter, none seems as consistently good
as comparaduns and sparkle duns, tied in a range of colors from
light yellow/olive to a dark olive/grey.

- JR

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Old February 10th, 2007, 03:58 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Feb 7, 1:15 pm, "Larry L" wrote:
It's Spring baetis time ( or will be soon where you are).

This little bug is so important in the waters I most fish that I'm always on
the look out for new patterns based on it. Often, just "something
different" can be a big factor in heavily fished areas, during hatches the
fish get to know well.

Got any favorite but unusual "Blue Winged Olive", just plain "Olive", or
baetis ties ?




I've been tying some wool flies, based on patterns developed by Dr.
James Merlihan. Some of this has been shown in Fly Rod and Reel
magazine, and he has given a couple of seminars at the Maryland Sheep
and Wool Festival. I believe that he is patenting the process, so I
feel uneasy posting much in the way of details of it. These flies are
tied with unspun wool in any color that you want, and they float like
a cork. When they drown, they resemble a good caddis nymph, but in
small sizes they are good baetis imitators. I've had very good luck
with these catching very unexcitable trout.

Also, What about the Usual, ties with snow shoe hare?

Steve
Maryland

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Old February 10th, 2007, 08:47 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Daniel-San" wrote

For me, the thread body makes tying the really small sizes far easier, and
I think it allows for some semblance of segmentation in the fly as well.
When I try to dub a body smaller than 18 or so, it becomes a blob.



Sparseness is, generally, very important in ties for 'selective' fish, and
It is always so elegant. Yet, it seems to go against my natural grain and
I have to fight myself constantly when tying to avoid "one more wrap of
hackle" or a "few more fibers in the tail"

Thanks for the link.


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Old February 10th, 2007, 08:47 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"JR" wrote

none seems as consistently good
as comparaduns and sparkle duns, tied in a range of colors from
light yellow/olive to a dark olive/grey.



That matches my experience, hard to beat a sparkle dun ... but sometimes
they are hesitant to take one and I carry some crippled dun, knocked down
dun, emerger and un-weighted nymph patterns for "tough times"

A consistently tough time during baetis activity is spinner egg laying (
although I seem to run into this far more with the Fall hatches ??/ wonder
why?? ) When you see the spinners crawling all over your waders, often
before the real hatch that day, I've never found a real killer pattern,
..... even when pods of fish are working. Tiny wets will catch fish, but
never feel like a "solution" in the regularity with which they do so.

Having passionately hunted waterfowl over decoys and fished with "hatch
matching" flies all my adult life I've spent a lot of thought on a "theory
of deception" ... I believe the two activities have many similarities in
their efforts to visually fool the prey.

Part of that theory is brought to mind by the "upside down hook" thread.
IME the prey is nearly always looking for POSITIVE clues or triggers, not
negative ones, and worries about him "seeing the hook" aren't grounded in
real observation. In the cases, ( some do exist in both sports ) where
the prey is so well educated that it looks for negatives it's nearly
impossible to fool him since all our efforts contain hooks, leaders, anchor
lines, etc. and are really pretty poor "imitations"

I mention this because I've never felt I've located and imitated the
positive triggers during baetis underwater egg laying activity ...
identifying and successfully suggesting, such positives is what I mean by
"solution"


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Old February 10th, 2007, 10:50 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Feb 7, 11:15 am, "Larry L" wrote:
It's Spring baetis time ( or will be soon where you are).


This one uses duck flank for tails and body all at the same time.
so it's sort of a duck wing with parachute hackle, with a an extra-
long
tail that is both body and tail.
......quick and easy to tie, and it's an itty bitty, so exact
immitation isn't required.
That's the idea anyway.

http://montana-riverboats.com/Pages/...eadBaetis.html

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Old February 11th, 2007, 10:51 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"salmobytes" wrote

with a an extra-
long
tail that is both body and tail.




pretty nifty, Sandy

I got a kick out of your "Bug for real Montana's" commentary also. I'm
giving serious thought to towing the trailer to Dillon or ??? (
suggestions? ) for the last part of April and May this year. I've been
leaving home June 1st for my summers but I'd like to sample the earlier
season. The idea of fishing thick baetis hatches in the cold and windy
doesn't bother me, but the "rest of the day" is a bit scary for a California
boy. ( I spent most of the day outside working dogs today dressed in a long
sleeved shirt, no coat .... we really don't "do Winter" here G)


 




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